High Output Preamp for First Watt SIT-3?


I'm new to the audiophile world and recently purchased a First Watt SIT-3 with Magnepan .7s.  I have a Mytek Brooklyn Bridge for streaming, though I prefer to play vinyl with my Mofi Ultradeck.  The Mytek serves as the phono stage (69dB gain for MM?), and I don't use a preamp;  the Brooklyn is connected directly to the First Watt. 

I understand that the SIT-3 is only 11.5 dB of gain, and that's extremely low compared to most amps.  I like most everything about the system except for the fact that I have the Mytek maxed out volume-wise many days.  Certain LPs are cut quieter, and I wish I had more power.  There are times streaming where the Maggies aren't getting to their sweet spot.  I realize the Maggies are a lower sensitivity speaker. 

What should I look for in a preamp to fully drive the SIT-3?  Eventually, I'd like to replace the phono stage instead of relying on the Brooklyn.  Is there a tube preamp featuring a phono stage with sufficient output to drive my amp in the $4k range?  Otherwise, I'm eyeing the Modwright PH 9.0 and a linestage preamp, realizing that this will probably be costlier.  I'm looking for a warm sound, not analytical but engaging. 

Any help is greatly appreciated.  I'm a working musician with a basic understanding of related electronics but little experience in this world. 

murphbass
Keep the SIT3, pair it with a MicroZOTL preamp and a pair of Zu speakers and I think you would be very happy. 
It's possible you might never know how good the Maggies can sound until you try a proper amp that can really make them sing.
Hi murphbass,
Your thread has generated many good responses and viable solutions for your dilemma.

1 keep the amplifier and speakers and add a high gain preamplifier.
2 Keep the Magnepans and acquire a more powerful amplifier for them.
3 Keep the S.I.T.-3 and acquire suitable higher sensitivity/efficiency speakers.

Which direction is more appealing to you as a long term choice?
Charles
+1 Charles. I would also like to know what phono cartridge is being used. With that information and the information that has already been provided a determination can be made as to approximately how much of the amp's power capability is not being utilized on many recordings, with the volume control set at max.

Best regards,
-- Al
 
Hi Murph,
I have pretty carefully read your posts. I relate to your perspective on music playback. Until recently I was a working musician and have made a living as an audio consultant and dealer. I own one of Nelson Pass’s “kitchen table” creations, the M3. Believe the SIT-3 is one of his better works. And there are two main issues, as you mentioned. Speaker and amp combination are the “two hands clapping” in any system. And the preamp is “the heart”. Central is your feeling of how the music sounds. If you like the Maggies you are not going to get that open sound from any other speaker that works for you other than a legendary pair of Quad 57s. It is counter intuitive, but if the SIT-3 and the .7s work for you they work. But the First Watt should be an excellent match with the 57s. I would save your money and stay with what you have. BTW you have one of the best TTs for $2k out there in the MoFi. And the your digital is said to be terrific although I am not a digital guy. An excellent phono stage and, according to TAS Editor’s Choice for many, many years as “the best at any price”, is the Audible Illusions preamp. The model with the phono stage is the M3A or M3B. I own and adore my M3B. A new one is $5200. But you can get 90% there with a factory refurbished one for around $2500. One of the fortes of the AI is that they are a SET design using only one tube per channel for the preamp and for the phono stage. And a SS amp is normally smoothed off by a tube preamp-let alone a SET. I know Dan Wright very well. I did an audio show with him. You can’t go wrong with one of his preamps but I prefer the AI. Unfortunately, a SET amp is a bridge too far for the Maggies. I am an all SET guy for life. Unmatched musicality with the right speakers. As good as the First Watt is, it is still a “sand amp” and has a SS sound.
But if all those wonderful reviewers and YOU love this combo, stick with it. Some day, or now, you may want to get Quad 57s. I joyfully lived with my 57s for 10 years and still miss them. But something you don’t get with 57s or .7s is dynamics and slam. This can be helped by adding a subwoofer. I would only use a Rel. They only make subs and they hook up directly to your amp making for the best connection. Surely, you may be more able to better push the Maggies with a higher power amp but adding an AI will give you substantially more gain and adjustable gain for MM. Matching amp with speaker is about the toughest thing in a system and if you, mostly, like what you have, be happy! Some day, you may want to get a SET. Ultimately, there is nothing that compares. SS amps try to sound more like tube amps and multi tube amps are trying to sound more like SETs... mostly.