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is it possible to make digital audio sound like vintage vinyl

sam here with another question. is it possible to make digital audio sound like vintage vinyl ? i realize i'm gonna get ripped a new a-hole however this is not a joke question. honest answers please i can take the heat

as crazy as it sounds it seams perfectly logical to me. now here is what i did using my 2013 dell pc windows 7 32bit.

using foobar 2000 with the convolver dsp filter i made an impulse file consisting of a 1 second wave file extracted at 32 / 88 

from the intro to pink floyds us and them on 1st press vintage vinyl u.k harvest label. just the surface noise before the music 

starts and applied the impulse file to a digital album to see if the digital album now sounds like vintage vinyl.here's the results

not sure if i made the digital audio sound worse or really what i achieved ? feedback will help me decide if i should

abandoned this pipe dream and move on. source is digital download flac 16/44 same source for both before/after samples.

audio sample 1: http://pc.cd/GB3

audio sample 2 (impulse applied) http://pc.cd/7eA

audio sample 3: http://pc.cd/7DP7

audio sample 4 (impulse applied) http://pc.cd/bw2

audio sample 5: http://pc.cd/3etrtalK

audio sample 6 (impulse applied) http://pc.cd/lTf7
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heaudio123
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My ad hoc tests with audiophiles says otherwise, however, you start from 2 false premises. 1) that a turntable has not already thrown away information. It has thrown away a ton of information.  2) That given a turntable has already thrown away a ton of information and the ear/brain has some limits i.e. bandwidth, can a digitized system collect all the usable information on a vinyl system such that the output is indistinguishable from the input. You haven't presented an argument that that is not true.


Indistinguishably? No

Adequately? Possibly

When you digitize a file you select some of the information to keep and some to discard.

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cleeds
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stevejewels
Is it possible to make a digital file sound like an analog LP? Indistinguishably? No
It’s not only possible, it’s not even that difficult to do.
When you digitize a file you select some of the information to keep and some to discard.
No, you don’t. The s/n, FR, and resolution of a hi-res digital file far exceeds that which can be pressed to LP. No information is "discarded."
If there was a perfect way to do it why are there so many DACs and methods?
It’s probably not possible to make the copy "perfect." But it is possible to make it indistinguishable from the LP.

As I already mentioned, it pains me to admit this. I’m an analog guy from way back when and remain one still.
mikelavigne
2,199 posts
 
it all depends on your reference for how vintage vinyl should sound.

--if your vintage vinyl reference is some computer algorithm process or pro audio tool.......then sure.

if you actually have a high level vinyl playback system and actual vintage vinyl to directly compare it to......then hell no! you are not going to make digital completely sound like that.

if you have not heard really great vintage vinyl......then your opinion does not count.

mostly.....subjective opinions about quality come down to the quality of references.
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stevejewels
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Please study up on digitizing.

Simple question. What does sampling rate mean?

The rate at which the original analog source is SAMPLED. The digitizing process only keep data which occurs at the sampling interval. The rest is ignored and lost.
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cleeds
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stevejewels
Simple question. What does sampling rate mean? The rate at which the original analog source is SAMPLED. The digitizing process only keep data which occurs at the sampling interval. The rest is ignored and lost.
What you state seems intuitively correct but is a common misnomer.  Only data outside of the bandwidth of the system is "ignored."
Please study up on digitizing.
If you care to follow your own advice, this video explains why you're so mistaken.
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