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??? Wood Plinths: Layers: 7/2/1 ? Wood Type: Solid or Veneer or Vinyl Wrap wood look ?

I hope we can assemble a thread of answers about the various Wood Plinths we have or definitely know about.

I'm trying to choose a TT for my office: JVC Victor/Denon/Pioneer/Sony/Technics/Marantz .. etc. 

If I go for a Wood Base, it's confusing, both the layered construction of the base, and the actual exterior wood material. Layers: I'm asking about the deck thickness/construction for the spinner (most are thinner at arm location).

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JVC Victor Wood Plinths with CL-P_ (CL-P1, 2, 3, 10)

I believe are all Premium 70mm thick 7 layer composite construction with real wood veneer. Mostly these are separate plinths, you add a spinner and a tonearm (or 2: CL-P2 or even 3: CL-P3). What's the difference between CL-P1 and CL-P10???

JVC Turntables (factory assembled and sold as a unit): Some have removable arm boards, some don't, some have multi-layer, others 2 layers, or only 1 layer?

Denon Plinths?

Denon Turntables?

the other brands are primarily factory assembled turntables, who knows about the deck thickness/material?

Please post what you know about your specific models, current or past, or you just know, I think we all would benefit from a lot of answers, I certainly will.

GLUE:  IF Treated Well: some brands/models veneer/wrap glue holds up, others not so well, some veneer/wraps are thick, some thin, hold up, or don't. Knowledge, comments, known problematic models/

A free for all will result I hope

regards, Elliott

elliottbnewcombjr
billwojo
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I'm watching this. I'd love to find a JVC plinth from Japan or Europe that has the armboard. I have a QL-A7 with the black glossy plinth.I have several arms to try out.

BillWojo
oldhvymec
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I use stair flats, 3/4 butcher block black oak, with 1/8" red oak veneers and a 1 x 1" red oak toe kick. I can swap the top and use, 121.124 Thoren, Any of the Russco, Sparta, QRC, Garrard 301, 401..
Then I uses a good BR high bubble count, to line the interior,  of the plinth and underside of the TT,  everything.. Long panels, double up.. Dead silent... Green concrete... Heavy with TT 45-65 lbs
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millercarbon
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The way you’re doing it will only drive you crazy. The reason is because the whole turntable/arm/cartridge/shelf system is vibrating. You can talk about any one individual part, change any one individual component, and hear a difference and know why- because it was just the one thing. So if you for example build a couple different bases or arm boards and change them out keeping everything else the same, fine. We can talk about that. You can evaluate that. But that’s not what you’re doing. You’re saying plinth but talking about whole complete different turntables. Which is a whole complete different thing. Right now you are asking about completely different turntables with completely different bearings, motors, platters, on and on, then trying to zero in on the type of wood, as if none of that other stuff is going on. Drive yourself crazy, and everyone around you too.

Check out my system. https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/8367 I built that. The rack, the table- and not just this one but what you don’t see, a bunch of prototypes or trial efforts or whatever you want to call it. I’ve heard the same components (bearing, platter, etc) with only one change (plinth, arm, motor, etc) one at a time. Not only on the Miller Carbon but on a Basis table before that. I guess you could say I kind of have a clue.

Two things I can say based on your question. One, forget your current approach. Forget asking people here for advice. Look for turntables you can afford, and when you find one search out all the reviews. Buy based on those reviews. Or Two, do like I did and get yourself a turntable constructed in such a way as to facilitate modifications. Something with a simple base you can build yourself using different materials. There’s general things you will learn, like every material imparts its own signature sound. Which is why laminates are so common. Laminating materials together averages out the good and bad of a lot of imperfect materials. Awful lotta work for a table for a office. I would go with the first one, and start reading reviews.

Take your time and don’t stress because no matter what at the end of the day you will have a turntable, and it is pretty hard to go bad when you got that going for you.
elliottbnewcombjr OP
5,330 posts
 
I meant answers about factory plinths and factory turntable bases, not looking for advice or custom solutions, thanks.
elliottbnewcombjr OP
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billwojo

I bought my CL-P2 from a Russian in Canada named Vlad. Superb protective shipping, great communication.

He has another CL-P2, in great shape, says dust cover (not shown) is in great shape, he will include a transformer 120/100 volt. It has a TT61 spinner in it, and a Pioneer Arm with cable attached.

https://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649624766-victor-tt-61-quality-direct-drive-turntable/?utm_campaign=response-received&utm_source=notification&utm_medium=email

his current list of ads

https://www.canuckaudiomart.com/userads.php?user_id=10089

I recommend him without hesitation,

Elliott
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