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Measuring line noise and power conditioners

I recently purchased a Trifield EMI (Dirty Electricity) Line Meter to measure noise coming from my outlets. To my surprise, my $500 power conditioner (name withheld to protect the potentially innocent) appears to not filter any noise per the Trifield readings. In fact, with some of my outlets the measures are higher through the conditioner’s outlets, than the measures coming straight out of the wall. The manufacturer denies anything is wrong with their conditioner, claiming the Trifield is measuring the wrong frequencies. Can anyone explain?

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geoffkait
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High frequency RF as measured by these EMI toys does not represent well the much harder to filter frequencies on the AC line that are either in the audio band and/or close it and can sub-modulate down into the audio band.

>>>>Sub-modulate down to the audio band? Are you high? Radio Waves are not even in the same domain as acoustic waves. How can MHz or GHz electromagnetic waves submodulate down to the acoustic band? It almost sounds like you actually think the acoustic waveform is traveling through the wires and cables.
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geoffkait
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Wow, I have seen that much jibber jabber since the last time I squeezed your head. You don’t get audio frequencies until the speaker diaphragm moves. Then you get audio, Mr. Smarty Pants. 👖Up until the signal gets to the speaker there is no audio, only current and voltage.
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mammothguy54
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I got an Audioquest Niagara 1200 and use Audioquest Tornado High Current and Source AC cables.  I also installed an Audioquest Edison Duplex AC wall outlet.  I have no measuring device to test my wall AC outlet noise (though I did the research and both read and viewed the metered difference of AC noise before and after the Niagara 1200 was inserted).
What I can say is that my system sounds far more dynamic and clean, than ever before.  The concept and the product work exceptionally well.
My ears told me so.  'Nuff said...
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nonoise
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Wow. Just, wow. Seems like every discussion on audio brings out the worst in people: those who decry things due to, measurements, and those who actually use their ears and report their findings.

Then comes the acrimony, the insults, the authoritarian know it alls who talk down to the less well versed, but better listening crowd.

It's why I've taken to posting a whole lot less as this place has been taken over by the same breed as the YouTube crowd. Anyone notice how many audio review sites no longer have a comments section or have simply stopped online publishing? 

Too many ids unleashed thanks to the internet. If those thoughts and words could be manifested, we'd destroy ourselves overnight, like the Krell did in Forbidden Planet.

All the best,
Nonoise
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