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All-in-one integrated, 10-15K range, class A/B only

For a second system. I want to buy a SS all-in-one integrated. At least 200W in 8ohm.

When I say all-in-one means it has to have DAC built-in (preferable a very nice DAC commensurate to the price point of the system). I would highly prefer a streamer built-in as well.

Am super excited about the new Boulder 866. It seems to be the only one satisfying all the criterion.

Another option could be the Accuphase E-800 with DAC module (but no streaming).
DAG Progression but it crosses 18K without DAC.

Any other options?
I am not interested in anything Class-D. It has to be Class A/B amplifier.

Speakers are TBD as well.


essrand
tom8999
154 posts
 
Just want to add my vote for the Krell 300i - but I passed on their internal DAC. I teamed mine up with a LUMIN T2 ( streamer and DAC). I get plenty of power to push Maggie 1.7is to amazing levels of sound. I also like the option of upgrading one or the other in the future as technology continues to progress. I have been using Krell integrateds for 20 years - they are great build quality and they are great if you need service.
Happy Listening!


fleschler
2,021 posts
 
Is there some reason slightly less expensive integrateds aren't mentioned?  The VAC 170IQ has 85 watts and if it sounds anything like VAC amps, should be outstanding at $10K.
ghasley
2,502 posts
 
@fleschler


The VAC is a great amp. I’m sure the reason it wasn’t included or recommended is that it isn’t solid state and it doesn’t have a built in dac/streamer. Other than that....
fleschler
2,021 posts
 
Thanks.
essrand OP
297 posts
 
A few clarifications about my hunt, based on some of the questions people have asked. I was thinking through it and came up with these.

Why only Class A/B?

I tried a Class D all-in-one, it didn't work out.

Why the price point 10-15K?

The above mentioned all-in-one was in the <10K range, so am curious, what refinements I can get outside this price point. I am sure there are many <10K that would beat that all-in-one, I haven't tried any or all of them yet. But that was why? Perhaps, I think, and some concur, at the 10K level, the league is different. I want to find out.

What Speakers?

I don't know yet. But I want the opposite of Devore O/96, current candidates are: Vivid (cheaper ones < 15K), Magico A series, Magnepan, Verity Amadis S (used only).

So I need a lot of power. My amp should be able to drive any of the above speakers comfortably. 


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