Vertical biamping ( can only be successfully done with identical amplification, as mentioned above ), has always been better, in sq, to my ears.
Will this amp trick work for increasing bass performance?
I'm considering matching Focal Utopia Scala Evo with two amps for bi-amping, to separate bass and mid/high.
I'm considering the Pass Labs XP-32 pre-amp, which has individual volume controls for each channel/amp. By slightly increasing bass amp volume over mid/high amp volume, I get to feel more punch from the 11" woofers. The crossover in the Focals cuts off at 220Hz, so only bass and sub bass are affected.
Which two power amps would you consider? Power amp budget is about $30K. Was told Focals like power, so >250W for bass amp seems the minimum. Pre amp will likely be Pass Labs XP-32.
Maybe Pass Labs X250.8 + X150.8 or X250.8 + XA60.8?
Your thoughts please? Any other ideas to get more bass performance from the 11" woofers in the Focals? Subwoofer is not an option. I know McIntosh has a pre-amp with equalizer, which would solve the problem too. But I always thought EQs are a no-no.
I'm considering the Pass Labs XP-32 pre-amp, which has individual volume controls for each channel/amp. By slightly increasing bass amp volume over mid/high amp volume, I get to feel more punch from the 11" woofers. The crossover in the Focals cuts off at 220Hz, so only bass and sub bass are affected.
Which two power amps would you consider? Power amp budget is about $30K. Was told Focals like power, so >250W for bass amp seems the minimum. Pre amp will likely be Pass Labs XP-32.
Maybe Pass Labs X250.8 + X150.8 or X250.8 + XA60.8?
Your thoughts please? Any other ideas to get more bass performance from the 11" woofers in the Focals? Subwoofer is not an option. I know McIntosh has a pre-amp with equalizer, which would solve the problem too. But I always thought EQs are a no-no.
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This is a nice problem to have. Get the XA60.8 on top and a pair of JC1+ amps on the bottom. If they are anything like the old JC1 they will have a damping factor in the thousands and plenty of power Fabulous bass. Better than any Pass amp I have heard and Pass amps are no slouch. The XA60.8 will be like heaven on top. When you get it done please invite me over. |
FYI... Paul McGowen just posted another video explanation of the importance of the subwoofer and the importance of the connection to the 'high level input' of a quality sub. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PIoSbboDf0 |
Robert, I believe you are on the right track. You probably don't need a sub unless you are listening to EDM or at concert level volume. Focal recommends an amp up to 500 watts, so depending on how much bass you are looking for I would get an amp as close to 500 watts as I could afford. You have a large room which makes it easier to over drive an amp powering the low end if you going for high volume. Adding eq can help tailor the sound even more if desired. If you are looking for that chest thump you could further accent the 40 to 80 hz region with out boosting the 160 to 220 hz area which can start to give you that hollow, in a tunnel type sound, depending how surgical your eq is. I believe that Pass amps and pre amps are truly balanced so if you convert the balanced output to RCA I believe you will loose 6db of out put |
Thanks @audiorusty, will keep that in mind. Just auditioned a McIntosh pre amp with built-in EQ. That solves my problem in one go. Someone said an EQ downgrades the quality of the music. “So does a room”, was the sales advisors reply. “It’s a very small trade off, but think of the EQ as a room correction tool”. My system will be in the living room, so I’m very limited in terms of room treatment. Also looking at Wilson Audio Sasha and Alexia Series 2 now. They only spec the minimum power, not maximum. The Alexia’s had muddy, boomy bass despite the room being properly set up. The sales rep assured me it’s because the 350 sq ft room is too small. And this won’t happen in my 860 sq ft living room, with large openings to the kitchen and study. |
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