A perfect example of what I mean.
Bob Dylan - new album just out on Tidal - Rough and Rowdy Ways
Just a heads up. Bob’s new album is out on Tidal today. Just finished my first listen - I am a big fan of Bob Dylan - I consider him the Poet of my generation - at 79 his lyrics tell beautiful stories - IMO. Enjoy the music.
Happy Listening!
Happy Listening!
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There’s some really good analysis of rock music in this thread. I could quibble with bits of it, but that’s all it would be. Still, I couldn’t help but recall this classic scene from the film "Diner." In a way, I can relate to each of the characters in this clip. |
@cleeds, I love that scene in Diner, and directed people to it a while back. Up above I called many genre distinctions crude. Like using a machete instead of a scalpel. I don’t organize my LP’s and CD’s by genre, though doing so chronologically is an interesting idea. Big Joe Turner recorded "Shake, Rattle, & Roll" before Bill Haley (and of course Elvis), Turner’s version at the time being called Jump Blues (and "Race" music by some), Haley’s Rock ’n Roll. Is that because Turner was black, Haley white? I don’t know, but I consider Turner’s Rock ’n’ Roll as well, and greatly prefer it to Haley’s. Many have not heard Joe’s version---remedy that situation! Big Joe Turner came out of Kansas City, so had some (a lot) of Jazz in him as well. Perhaps that’s why his music contains so much "Swing", another characteristic that separates Rock ’n’ Roll (swings) from Rock (doesn’t, generally speaking). Neil Peart couldn’t have worked in Big Joe’s band; he was unable to play the Swing feel, as became apparent at the Buddy Rich tribute show he organized. I saw The Blasters back Big Joe at The Lingerie Club in Hollywood in the mid-80’s; now THERE was a band that swung! For those who don’t know, Dave Alvin came out of The Blasters (though his brother Phil was the singer/frontman), left to join X, then started his solo career. The Blasters understood very well the connection between Jump Blues, Rhythm & Blues, Rockabilly, Rock ’n’ Roll, and Hillbilly, playing it all. As a bonus, their Non Fiction LP (self-produced, recorded at Ocean Way, the studio preferred by Ry Cooder and T Bone Burnett) and Hard Line LP (produced by Jeff Eyrick) feature great recorded sound. Get hip or go home. ;-) |
No, this all started from you making the statement, ‘if he (Dylan) wants to be in a rock band....’ and implying his current effort doesn’t meet the classification of a being in a ‘rock band’, Sorry, but that’s not what I said. I was saying that Bob’s singing voice had deteriorated to the point where, if he wanted to continue playing in a rock band, he should get someone else to sing. You then said that Bob has never wanted to play in a rock band. I would much rather see Bob write poetry, or prose, or just become a treasured songwriter. In general, I prefer to see people and artists age gracefully. To me rock is a young person’s game. There are exceptions, of course. Rodney Crowell has done his best work since the turn of the century with, "The Houston Kid" in 2001, "Fate’s Right Hand" in 2003, and, "Close Ties" in 2017. Those three albums rock hard and are much better than anything Dylan has done in a long time. Rodney will turn 70 this August. He has other very good albums out in that time frame, but those three stand out for me. Ray Wylie Hubbard’s first album came out in 1975, but he has done a string of really good albums between 1992 and the present. Ray Wylie will turn 74 later this year. He is beginning to show signs of becoming a caricature of himself, though. I am with Grace Slick on this topic. Watching a bunch of old geezers trying to play rock is embarrassing. When your voice is gone, mentor someone who can still sing. |
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