Who says cables don't make a difference?


Funny, after all these years, people still say things like "you wasted all that money on cables". 
There are still those who believe cables don't make a difference.
I once did marketing for a cable line I consider to be about the best-Stealth Audio Cables. 
One CES, I walked the rooms with the designer/owner, Serguei Timachev. He carried a pair of his then new Indra interconnects. Going from room to room he asked the room runners to replace their source to preamp IC with the Indra. There was not one that was not completely flabbergasted and said that the Indras blew away what they were using. That was the skyrocketing of Indra and Stealth. The Indra became one of the best reviewed cables ever.
Serguei now makes the Sakra-an IC that blows away the Indra!
I don't understand why some still do not value cables as much as I.
mglik
Keep your 50 dollars cables.... But treat your room and prepare yourself for a big surprize....

The best improvement is not about cables but a dedicated controlled audio only room.... :)

Really???  Oh, and 2x2=4, you forgot to add.  
(Please forgive my irony if you are a complete beginner and just recently discovered the room importance).

(Please forgive my irony if you are a complete beginner and just recently discovered the room importance).
Even many of those who speak about the room importance underestimated the impact of room treatment....

Most people think about passive room tretment when they think about this matter...It is ONLY the 1/3 of the problem.... In my experience and experiment in a DEDICATED audio room 2/3 of the results comes from ACTIVE room treatment...

Then forgive my lack of irony and seriousness if you are a beginner in these matter or think you are not one..   :)
They tend to be set in their attitude regardless of enormous objective proof.


Subjective proof. There is very little objective proof. Objective proof would require either electrical testing that shows a change that correlates with known limits of human hearing and/or controlled listening tests.   w.r.t. measurement, a few areas:  high resistance from small gauge and/or excessive inductance or capacitance causing significant roll-off and wide-bandwidth amplifiers having instability, which for the most part has been "fixed" in newer designs.  Either of these issues can be addressed with very little expense. Shielding can also contribute to reduced noise floor, but again, that is addressed very inexpensively.

On the controlled listening tests, they tend not to support the conclusion that there are reliably identifiable differences in the sound between various cables when the volume is controlled for. To this day, I am not aware of even 1 public, controlled listening test, conducted by a cable vendor. Not 1. You gotta admit, that is a pretty damning statement, especially in light of the challenges and the willingness to let the vendor control every single variable.

I am not advocating 18 awg zip cord, and dollar store interconnects, but while audiophiles like to talk about "diminishing" returns, based on the objective evidence, the reality may be "no" returns past a certain price point and that price point may be relatively low.


robberrttddidd
On the controlled listening tests, they tend not to support the conclusion that there are reliably identifiable differences in the sound between various cables when the volume is controlled for. To this day, I am not aware of even 1 public, controlled listening test, conducted by a cable vendor. Not 1. You gotta admit, that is a pretty damning statement, especially in light of the challenges and the willingness to let the vendor control every single variable.

>>>>Oh, I don’t know the only company that claims to do blind testing is Harman Kardon or whatever their name is and their stuff is probably junk, anyway. If you’re so high on blind tests why don’t you volunteer to do some blind tests and report your results. I dare you. 
Subjective proof. 



A subjective proof is an oxymoron....

There is only subjective experience and experience are always subjective...

The true reason why cables importance is exagerated among audiophiles is in relation to the more impactful other urgent problems to solve: principally the 3 embeddings...

An objective proof in matter of cable is nearly impossible because of all factors implicated and also because it is impossible to reduce experiencing consciousness to numbers dials in principle....And the experiencing of cable difference is most of the time easy to test ourself by replacing one, for sure that is not a proof only an experience.... :)

My best....

« i divorce because i fail to choose my wife in a blindtest»- Groucho Marx

« After seeing God, after this experience, who wants on top of that a proof ? » -Groucho Marx