Robert, I hadn’t checked back for a while as noticed you gave a response to my first post on this thread. You know they barely have a meter how? You don’t know, and I’ve seen videos of some of their facilities, happened to see a lot of meters. As you’re well aware, I’m sure, they mostly claim they don’t say what they do, because they don’t want competition copying them. I have no idea how realistic that is, but I bet you don’t either, because you’re not in their industry to be in the know. Could it be an excuse they came up with so they wouldn’t have to say? Who knows. Despite what some have posted on the subject, turns out many of these guys are indeed electrical engineers, some of who got into the industry, or created their company after working for some time in other parts of the audio field. Don’t know a percentage, but have also seen interviews where this was brought up, unless they’re all lying about their past work history. How does each new generation of any audio product end up being “ improved”. Again, through interviews in magazines, or on video, seems most products go through some sort of audio tuning, where someone listens. And tweaks, unlit they’ve achieved what they were looking for. Before that some engineering went into what changes they were looking to make, and why, and what they were hoping to improve upon. I do find that many of them will talk about what improvements they were expecting to achieve, just are not as open with the techniques and materials in specifics they used to get there. Again, they claim it’s so that the competition won’t know, so hw come no one gives kfc grief for their secret recipe? Are the many millions of people who buy their daily being duped because it’s not posted? It must be another mass hallucination, lol. All fried chicken is really the same I suppose. All I know is that I don’t care for some, and I like others. And how would I be any better informed if I knew the secret recipe, or mcds secret sauce. Would that allow be to better tell my taste buds which one is better? Hearing is a sense just like taste, and just as subjective, which is why we can all,listen to the same mucus, but have different ideas about wether we like it or not.