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High Powered Holographic Amplifiers

I am looking for high powered amplifiers that are truly Holographic.. 

My speakers are power hungry, 

The Audio Research Ref 610T is easily the most holographic amplifier(s) that have ever been in this system. 

The solid holographic images moving around the room are nothing short of amazing. 

Music just seems to pour out of the speakers.

My "room" is completely untreated and has lots of noise provided by my sub zero fridge and freezer units. 
My equipment is pretty good, though.

Are there any solid state options that are as good?

My speakers are Magnepan 20.1
Preamp is Audio Research Ref 5
Source is a VPI (both Classic 3 and Aries I)
Cart is a Dynavector XV1-s
Phono Pre is a Manley Steelhead RC
Cables are whatever I bought on Ebay, Power cords (in this system) are generally just normal factory.

(I'm not looking for a white paper discussion on what sonic holography is, or to discuss ancient Carver products.)

Curious about the Ayre MX-R, the Pass XS-300 (but I have no experience whatsoever with either).

Are there any other amplifiers besides the Ref 610T that might be _truly_ worthy of the epithet "Holographic"?. 

(If you don't know the difference between soundstaging and holography, this is not the thread for you.)
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mahgister
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There exist 3 embeddings for any audio system, 3 dimensions and 3 way for the audio system to interact with his parts and manifest it in sound...

The mechanical resonance-vibrations problem,
The electro-magnetic grid of the house and his noise level,
The acoustical space of the room in his passive controls and  the  very important active possible controls.

All good amplifier becomes holographic if these 3 embeddings are taking care of.... That cost peanuts and the audible effect exceed most upgrade of any parts in any system...It is the only things i know ...

The uypgrading myth is not the essential problem in audio it is the accomodation of these 3 embeddings that is....  :)

My best...
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geoffkait
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Holographic is just a word. Like a lot of words audiophiles use to describe sound. I can’t get too hung up on words since everyone has different idea in their heads what words mean. One man’s holographic is another man’s two-dimensional and flat. I understand some people can’t get the sound to escape the confines of the speaker cabinets. If I say the sound is warm or has air some people think it means one thing, others think it means something entirely different.
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mahgister
13,009 posts
 
We begins with a word that has little meaning, expand it with our own experience, and hope that this expansion will be keep on by others...Read with your heart and not only the brain....

« Poetry is the nuclear heart of language, prose is only his fossilized aassemblage » -Groucho Marx
arro222
142 posts
 
This shouldn’t be this hard. The guy is looking for an ss amp that produces the same effects as his current ARC. All of his reasons are not "mandatory" to be given here but simply important to him. That should be good enough. I feel rh67 has given a "valid response" to the ops question.
So lets start what I feel what holography is and see if it is what the op can coincide with. The word "holography" to me is music seemingly NOT coming from the speakers. The sounds seemed more realistic and "organic" in that instruments were actually in the room and placed here and there. Some say "the speakers disappeared" but its more than that.
If you felt or heard this then give the guy a valid answer and stop with the flame and emotional baggage stuff. As always and in any forum, someone always has to get bunched up for being "insulted" in some way. That’s on you and not the poster in any fashion.
mrdecibel
3,063 posts
 
Cable upgrades, and adding some room acoustic treatments, will get you to the level you are looking for, ime......
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