Who says cables don't make a difference?


Funny, after all these years, people still say things like "you wasted all that money on cables". 
There are still those who believe cables don't make a difference.
I once did marketing for a cable line I consider to be about the best-Stealth Audio Cables. 
One CES, I walked the rooms with the designer/owner, Serguei Timachev. He carried a pair of his then new Indra interconnects. Going from room to room he asked the room runners to replace their source to preamp IC with the Indra. There was not one that was not completely flabbergasted and said that the Indras blew away what they were using. That was the skyrocketing of Indra and Stealth. The Indra became one of the best reviewed cables ever.
Serguei now makes the Sakra-an IC that blows away the Indra!
I don't understand why some still do not value cables as much as I.
mglik
@speedbump6 --- you are wasting your time with this guy. Give it up, you will get nowhere, no matter what. 
I've been told I'm deaf or my system is junk all the time when I don't notice differences in cables or DACs. This guy right above me ridicules me all the time. 
I've never said people are hallucinating but are not controlling for biases which can affect your perception. Those are not the same things when someone says they hear differences I believe them. They do hear differences the thing I question is why. Is it really the cable or is it their perfectly normal human biases. 
It can be the cables and it can be, if subtle differences are there to be distinguished at all, relative human biases....I cannot myself imagine that cables all sound like one another based on my experiences....

But most peoples invest too much money in cables.... Night and day differences comes from controls over the 3 embeddings of an audio system, not from cables in my experience, except by replacing a very bad one with a very good one, but this is exception not rule...

I dont understand all these childlike games here about cables....Common sense suffice to pose the problem and is sufficient to solve it.... Safe for those who wouched for no cables differences exist at all....And this is silly for those like me who hears differences....

A single difference between cables can be a result of some bias and can be placebo....But cumulative changes in the same positive directions cannot be reduced to illusion nor by blind test neither by measures....Then perhaps some single cable difference with another one can be argued for or against in a singular basis ....But cumulative positive differences is the heart of audio experience listening, that cannot be reduced to illusion only....

For me listening is my only way to test.... I test my own audio homemade tweaks with my ears for 2 years, and recreate completely my own sound experience by controlling the 3 embeddings, not by changing cables, even if they dont sound alike.... :)

I dont sell nor buy anything except peanuts costing materials in the last 2 years..... Then Hi-Fi experience cost peanuts if you want to invest your listening learning skills and some basics.... That is my grain of pepper....
Thyname, I know I’m not changing anyone’s mind, when they’ve already made up their mind, that last post he said it all. He wants to see a change in the cable that he can measure, or apparently he won’t believe his own ears without that.  It’s like they believe if they hear it, it’s a magic act, and there’s an explanation why it’s not real. There are many things we can’t measure out there, or modify our definition of because we found out our past ways to measure sow thing wasn’t correct in some way. It’s a good thing that most scientists or creators of new products and ideas don’t get stuck in that loop, or we’d never advance beyond where we are now. Man can’t fly, until he could. Still people who think the moonwalk was faked. If that’s what they want to believe, so be it. I can certainly see the idea that for what cables can cost, it’s insane to many. And I’m sure the level of profit is extremely high the more expensive they get. Only you can determine if what you hear is worth what the cost is, but it for sure is no one else’s business if you decide it is. As it’s no one else’s business to tell you you’re wrong for not spending on cables. Your budget, and more so the value they represent to you can only be answered by you. Why are these concepts so hard to understand.