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Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
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jafant OP
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thieliste

Looking forward in reading your report on the Gryphon.

Happy Listening!
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yesterday's HiFi Chats via YouTube featured Garth Powell from Audioquest.

Happy Listening!
jon_5912
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I finally got around to trying to figure out what was going on with the ViewPoints I bought in March.  I had bought a replacement tweeter and installed it but it wasn't working right.  I took the speaker apart and played around trying to get it to work.  There was a signal at the tweeter terminals and at the plugs where it is installed.  After being mystified for a while I noticed that the new tweeter had the same problem the old one had - the wire that connects the voice coil to the plug was broken.  

Hmmmmm.  I played a 60hz test tone and measured the AC voltage at the woofer terminals and the tweeter terminals.  They both had exactly 2 volts.  I'm thinking this means that one of the capacitors or the resistor in the tweeter path is a full short.  Anybody have this experience?  
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tomthiel
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Jon - I haven't had your experience, but I can comment.Broken leads are usually caused by excessive excursion.Your 2 volts AC at the tweeter and woofer with a 60Hz test signal is improper. Tweeter should be near zero.Caps and resistors usually blow open, not short. Hmmm. Shorted feed cap or resistor would cause direct feed and tweeter destruction.If your XOs are on PCBoards, the short might be in a trace, not component.
Rob Gillum at Coherent Source Service might help troubleshoot
jon_5912
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Tom - Thanks for the feedback, I think the crossover must be what is described as point to point.  All of the components are soldered directly together on the back of the board.  I don't see any other possibility than one of the three components has a short.  There is another path but it goes through a resistor, pair of capacitors, and coil in series.  I'm guessing it's some sort of secondary path to deal with some specific problem.  

It's really annoying.  I guess now I bust out the soldering iron, take the components off the board and measure them.  I have a hardware store multimeter that won't measure capacitance.  

Picture of cs2.4 crossover with same type of construction.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/333477547409233370/
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