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A challenge to the "measurement" camp

I’ve watched some of his video and I actually agree on some of what he said,
but he seems too confident on his insistence on measurement. For those
who expound on the merits of blind test and measurement, why not turn
the table upside down?

Why not do a blind test of measurement? That is I will supply all the measurement
you want, can you tell me which is a better product?

For example, if I have a set of cable, and a set of measurement for each
individual cable, can you tell me which is the best cable based on measurement
alone? I will supply all the measurement you want.
After all, that is what you’re after right? Objective result and not subjective
listening test.

Fast forward to 8:15 mark where he keeps ranting about listening test
without measurement.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=katmUM-Xelw

By the way, is he getting paid by Belden?  Because he keeps talking about it
and how well it measures.  I've had some BlueJean cables and they can easily
bettered by some decent cables.  
andy2
andy2 OP
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A lot of studios record everything in digital and use that as their master tape (or disc) because it's easy for mixing in digital.  But that makes sense because they can afford top notched ADC (so it's not like some cheap ADC found in the garden variety receivers from Best Buy).  Then they transfer that to vinyl using high quality DAC.  So on paper, it's hard to argue how vinyl is superior since they all have to go through a DAC stage.  Either it's the studio DAC or your own DAC at home.

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thyname
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Oh I know. I was just pointing out the stupidity of some folks around the nets
glupson
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"Which is how we got to the current stories about all the kids freaking out about how WE...the older crew, somehow had all the magic music during our time."

In my experience, that is what older crew likes to think about "their" music. I have not heard teens or twenties crew talk like that so far. They do listen to some of the older music, but they do enjoy music of their generation, too.

Current older crew tends to cherish music of long-dead ancestors much more than current younger crew cherishes music of their parents. Was it in this thread that surprisingly informative discussion about Chopin et al. surfaced? Beethoven anyone? Mozart? Bach? That older crew really had all the magic music during their time.

glupson
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"when we get to the end of all that, we find that analog cables, in an all triode or v-fet system, is the only real functional signal capturing and playback chain."

To repeat, if you truly want to advance signal transmission, figure out better quality wireless and not novelty cable. Nobody says it is easier than advertising a cable, though.

andy2 OP
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^^^ How do send wireless info from the amp to the speakers?
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