Who says cables don't make a difference?


Funny, after all these years, people still say things like "you wasted all that money on cables". 
There are still those who believe cables don't make a difference.
I once did marketing for a cable line I consider to be about the best-Stealth Audio Cables. 
One CES, I walked the rooms with the designer/owner, Serguei Timachev. He carried a pair of his then new Indra interconnects. Going from room to room he asked the room runners to replace their source to preamp IC with the Indra. There was not one that was not completely flabbergasted and said that the Indras blew away what they were using. That was the skyrocketing of Indra and Stealth. The Indra became one of the best reviewed cables ever.
Serguei now makes the Sakra-an IC that blows away the Indra!
I don't understand why some still do not value cables as much as I.
mglik
Mahgister, that is a lot of conspiracy theory and ideas presented as facts without evidence for one post.
Sorry i dont get the conspiracy theory accusation....Do you live in Disney world, being a scientific and not knowing how international company use statistic in medical research, i guess you are an engineer? If you want i give to you the basic litterature about statistic use in medical field ? I am not a scientist myself but i know how to read ...It is a very actual problem in this pandemic by the way....

For the "facts" only your own " labelled" measures are facts no? Other ears experience are illusions....

Testimonies are not facts, anecdotal trivia they are....Human ears must be educated by numbers dials.... is it that? Is it the critical listening you speak about?

I apologize for the sarcasm....


P.S. for the statistic one short beginnings:

"The  ongoing tyranny of statistical significance testing in biomedical research" by Andreas Stang Oliver Kuss

The pdf is easy to spot on the web....

If you want explanation i am here :)

If you can understand that you will know how to use statistic to inflect any result in the wished direction....

After understanding that we can discuss the difference between field observational medical research and the difference with methodological statistic research  with the goal to sell you some "drug" ....

But this will necessitate other articles and education....

Where is the conspiracy theory?

Dont call something you dont understand with name you dont understand either....
Haha Robert, sounds like I’m doing pretty well at it then, you seem to be “ stiffled” by my posts. Actually I think it’s pretty sad that anyone feels the need to proclaim and stiffle any thoughts that don’t agree. But your response I guess is what one should expect when they try to approach a subject with reason and logic when others intentions are anything but that. But hey, carry on with your “ stifling” and enjoy if that’s what you do for entertainment. 
mahlman...After the way you played people on the "Should people who can't solder..." thread, for your own amusement, there is no way of knowing when you are being serious. That means you lack credibility. You should apologize for what you did. Some people, such as millercarbon, who were taken in by your game, actually defended you. That must have been hilarious. Oh, I forgot, you even mentioned that your wife was wondering what you were laughing about. 
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Well, I don't know where to begin:

"Funny, after all these years, people still say things like "you wasted all that money on cables". "

I'm an engineer, and I'm one of them. Most of the differences people hear, are capacitance and inductance (neither of which are desirable in an audio interconnect).

"There are still those who believe cables don't make a difference."

I am one of them. Not to say there is *NO* difference between cables, but for most people, those differences are slight enough to be negligible in the grand scheme of things, compared to the differences between $1000 speakers and $3000 speakers, or between a $1200 power amplifier, and a $2000 power amplifier. I mean, the circuit even in components that cost thousands of dollars, contains average quality wire and traces at best. A good designer will take steps to lower EMI. I once heard a salesman ask a customer if he had changed the power cord for his power amplifier: I had never gone back. I had once rewired the RCA to board connections in a Quad 606 power amplifier with my stock bulk interconnect, DH Labs Silver Sonic BL1, Series II (a balanced one that has a shield that I never use because I know it's unnecessary except in that specific case). The buzz it always had, had been lessened by moving that Silver Sonic away from the transformer, and little else. I had grounded the shield, but it had done little. I don't think changing my interconnects, would have accomplished very much in that case. I would be happy however to switch the short DH Labs cable that I use with my headphone rig, and the $15 cable that I had got off of Ebay, all day long, for a visitor, seeing if they can tell them apart in a blind, or other listening test.  

"I once did marketing for a cable line I consider to be about the best-Stealth Audio Cables."

I had a look at their Indra V10 marketing spiel, and there's so much junk science in there, that they should probably get sued. You want me to pay $7000 for a three foot interconnect?

" The internal part of the Indra V10 connector is made of solid silver "
I would probably be able to get the whole cable made out of solid silver, for less money, somewhere else.
One CES, I walked the rooms with the designer/owner, Serguei Timachev. He carried a pair of his then new Indra interconnects. Going from room to room he asked the room runners to replace their source to preamp IC with the Indra. There was not one that was not completely flabbergasted and said that the Indras blew away what they were using."

Because you say so, doesn't cut it.

"I don't understand why some still do not value cables as much as I."

Because for most people they're a waste of money? 
My idea of a good cable is this:
1. A short one.
2. One that doesn't introduce capacitance.
3. One that doesn't introduce inductance.
4. One that doesn't pick up EMI.
5. One that has a shield that's grounded to lessen EMI, in the rare event that the amount of EMI present is objectionable and audible.
5. One that doesn't oxidize.