A challenge to the "measurement" camp


I’ve watched some of his video and I actually agree on some of what he said,
but he seems too confident on his insistence on measurement. For those
who expound on the merits of blind test and measurement, why not turn
the table upside down?

Why not do a blind test of measurement? That is I will supply all the measurement
you want, can you tell me which is a better product?

For example, if I have a set of cable, and a set of measurement for each
individual cable, can you tell me which is the best cable based on measurement
alone? I will supply all the measurement you want.
After all, that is what you’re after right? Objective result and not subjective
listening test.

Fast forward to 8:15 mark where he keeps ranting about listening test
without measurement.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=katmUM-Xelw

By the way, is he getting paid by Belden?  Because he keeps talking about it
and how well it measures.  I've had some BlueJean cables and they can easily
bettered by some decent cables.  
andy2
Bad faith is alas! an obstruction to communication that is heavy load to throw off....

Too much konwledge in  a field can mask the infinite mysteries around, and can be too easy and tempting to throw off at the face  of others less knowledgeable.... 


This citation of Einstein is testimony of his intuition about knowledge  but also about reality.... The map(measures) are radically different from the territory.... He was knowing that like some other awaken spirits...

In audio not everything that matters to the  ears can be measured, and not everything that is measured matters to the ears... A perfect application of these words that Einsten  inscribed  on the opening door of his office...

The map must guide us but never at all cost.....If not,we reduce ourself to horse with blinders....


I dont know....But if not, it is so right observation that anybody with a brain would have been able to write it.... I will take it then.... :)

I think that the author is Elliot Eisner i look on the internet.... But i dont know for sure....

I like it a lot.... I translate it: " map is not territory "  Alfred Korzybsky...

A smaller brain than Einstein perhaps but not an idiot ....

 :)
i prefer my translation modulo Korzybski than the " counting" citation.... It is more interesting....

Any set of measures is ALWAYS a map....Or a potential.... Certainly not all reality, nor the territory....