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A challenge to the "measurement" camp

I’ve watched some of his video and I actually agree on some of what he said,
but he seems too confident on his insistence on measurement. For those
who expound on the merits of blind test and measurement, why not turn
the table upside down?

Why not do a blind test of measurement? That is I will supply all the measurement
you want, can you tell me which is a better product?

For example, if I have a set of cable, and a set of measurement for each
individual cable, can you tell me which is the best cable based on measurement
alone? I will supply all the measurement you want.
After all, that is what you’re after right? Objective result and not subjective
listening test.

Fast forward to 8:15 mark where he keeps ranting about listening test
without measurement.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=katmUM-Xelw

By the way, is he getting paid by Belden?  Because he keeps talking about it
and how well it measures.  I've had some BlueJean cables and they can easily
bettered by some decent cables.  
andy2
andy2 OP
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Not everything that matters can be measured, and not everything that is measured matters.
I am sure there are people in this thread will try to argue with this.  I mean there's guy on another thread thinks he can tell which is a better cable by just looking at some basic measurements.  

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thyname
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It’s probably the same guy. Like ours here. With his THIRD fake account 😂
djones51
4,947 posts
 
There's a guy here who thinks he can take measurements but he only knows one end to probe. 
tommyu
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Not everything that matters can be measured and not everything that is measured matters. ~Elliot Eisner.
andy2 OP
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A good example is measuring amplifier THD. Amps with feedback tend to measure better vs. amps with no overall feedback, but we all know which ones sound better.

What happens is amps with feedback tend to have higher order distortion and our ears are sensitive to it.  On the other hands, amps with no feedback may have higher overall distortion but the distortions are of lower order.


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