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A challenge to the "measurement" camp

I’ve watched some of his video and I actually agree on some of what he said,
but he seems too confident on his insistence on measurement. For those
who expound on the merits of blind test and measurement, why not turn
the table upside down?

Why not do a blind test of measurement? That is I will supply all the measurement
you want, can you tell me which is a better product?

For example, if I have a set of cable, and a set of measurement for each
individual cable, can you tell me which is the best cable based on measurement
alone? I will supply all the measurement you want.
After all, that is what you’re after right? Objective result and not subjective
listening test.

Fast forward to 8:15 mark where he keeps ranting about listening test
without measurement.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=katmUM-Xelw

By the way, is he getting paid by Belden?  Because he keeps talking about it
and how well it measures.  I've had some BlueJean cables and they can easily
bettered by some decent cables.  
andy2
glupson
7,842 posts
 
speedbump6,

"glupson, when you buy a pair of shoes, don’t you also wear socks with them?"

Not all the time. Socks also come usable "out of the box", I do not need to buy another one.

We all have different approaches, but if they tried to sell me half-baked electronic product, I would feel cheated. Unless it is, for example, something in kit.
speedbump6
760 posts
 
Some socks are uncomfortable, they have the ridge inside that just bugs the dickens out of me. Some are too thin and the shoe wobbles, some are too thick and it’s hard to get the shoe on. Some don’t fit well on the leg and slide down to my ankle. So many varieties and choices, some materials feel more comfortable than others, some make my feet sweaty. 
glupson
7,842 posts
 
"Some don’t fit well on the leg and slide down to my ankle."


Imagine if the manufacturer made a suggestion to put a rubber band around them after you buy them.
speedbump6
760 posts
 
Lol, I’ve seen that done before. 
andy2 OP
1,577 posts
 
As for power conditioner, just because you have one, does not mean the power cable does not matter.

Imagine you have a power conditioner, but your power cable is slim and tiny, it will definitely affect the performance of the power conditioner.  Therefore, you need some decent power cable.  
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