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Linn LP 12 hum not coming from Bryton phono stage.

I’m getting a pretty significant hum with my Linn Sondek LP12 turntable sitting on top of my equipment stand. My new Bryston MM phono stage does not hum at all when the turntable RCA interconnects are disconnected.

Yes, I have the grounding wire attached to the grounding lug on the phono preamp. I plan to move the TT to the original Sound Organization wall shelf to get it away from the adjacent electronics.

Will moving it to the wall shelf do anything to eliminate hum? What about transitioning to the better "Radikal" power supply and DC motor (the original has the Valhalla board I believe and the AC motor).

Thanks, for any suggestion you might have for things I can check.


edit: I must be tired, I noted that I mis-spelled Bryston as "Bryton". Titles cannot be edited, arghh!

masi61
masi61 OP
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@lewm  - I have noticed that occasionally the hum increases after the turntable has been running for a bit. I mean when I first turn on the turntable the hum is barely audible. By the end of the first side of music, it starts to become intrusive.

I had already planned to update the power supply for the supposed improved sonics and the ability to play 45's.

lewm
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What I was getting at is whether the hum is due to a direct interaction between the cartridge and the TT motor.  One manifestation of that would be that the hum is loudest when the cartridge is nearest to the motor.
cd318
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I'd start by checking the headshell wires of the K9.

Sometimes they can get too close to other pins. If so you could try to move them with a small non-metal implement like a toothpick etc. Just to see what happens to the hum.

You could also check the mains cable by moving it to see if that has an effect. Loose connections are notorious for causing hum issues.

As for the Valhalla board, I would not recommend an examination. It carries lethal voltages and you would also risk disturbing the suspension. Without the correct suspension setup, the sound of an LP12 collapses pitifully.

It might well be possible that the thin earth lead which grounds the sub-chassis may have strayed a little and is now picking up something from one of the board's high voltage components.

In this case you will be better off getting it checked by someone who has the required setup jig. They'd be able to take a closer look and give it a service and oil change etc at the same time.

I'm also far from convinced that the Linn belongs on a wall shelf. It's suspension can cope remarkably well with vertical resonances sat on a table, but not so well on a shelf with resonances coming from a wall.

However this is what I found some 15 - 20 years ago. Linn may have changed the suspension components a few times since. You should definitely consider ringing a dealer or maybe ringing Linn themselves. Sending an email certainly won't hurt either.

Turntable hum is the nightmare of every vinyl enthusiast, so the best of luck in getting it fixed 
masi61 OP
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Update on my path to quieting my phono(Linn Sondek LP12 w/ Bryston BP-2 MM is overdue...

I returned from Ann Arbor Michigan where I had taken the turntable to Overture Audio and Thomas O'Keefe there did a fantastic job doing a whole bunch of upgrades on it. I lost the Valhalla power supply and now have the Radikal power supply. I went all in and have the new Karousel bearing installed on a Greenstreet Audio (Keel copy) CNC milled aluminum subchassis. I got the "Adikt" MM cartridge to replace my aging K9 cartridge.

When I hooked it up, it still hummed!

So I contacted Gary Dayton with Bryston and he said that I need a "Y" connector to go from my BP26 preamp to Bryston Power supply. When I first hooked it up it started making a police siren sound! I freaked and had to power the system down since the police siren noise was increasing in volume.

I had to take a time out and go out and do some yard work as I pondered what to do next....

Update to follow since I am at work right now and my laptop is about to die....

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noromance
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Well, this is getting exciting!
I assume they tested the Sondek and gave it a clean bill of hum-less health. So something’s got to be up with your phono amp. You need to test this with a different phono. Buy a Schiit Mani on Amazon for $149. Or even a $30 cheapo unit. You can return it or use for another table.
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