Alternatives to Brick and Mortar


I didn't want to further derail @millercarbon's Tekton Moab thread, but I think it is a worthwhile topic to discuss how to find speakers that meet our listening tastes, aesthetic tastes, budget, room, etc. Brick and mortar retail is dying because it's becoming very difficult to operate profitably. 

Full disclosure - I own and operate an e-commerce cycling business. For ten years, I also had a brick and mortar operation (multiple locations). The economics are a bit different than audio since our average sale was only in the very low three figures, but it's not that different. We still had bicycles that we sold for over $10K, but the cost of those sales was quite high. Over the ten years we had the stores (which were 4-5 times the national average in size and revenue), we made a profit from the stores in three of those years. Fortunately, our e-commerce business was much more profitable and allowed us to cover those losses. 

Brick and mortar is becoming more expensive due to higher lease rates, higher payroll costs, and competition with other sales channels. To keep a brick-and-mortar sales channel viable, the manufacturer has to offer the dealer a fairly sizable margin (generally 35% to 60%) and have enough sales velocity that the store can cover their expenses. It's pretty rare these days that there are products that fly off the shelves at a specialty audio retailer. 

Our handling costs are a lot lower in our e-commerce operation, but even in this business, the only products we're willing to carry that have less than 40% margins are products we can get 8 turns or more on. This means that the manufacturer has to have plenty of back stock and be able to replenish our inventory quickly, and also means that the product has to have high and consistent sell-through so we can accurately predict our inventory requirements.

For a specialty audio dealer, there are very few products that have high volume. If you think about how much time you've taken up of a dealer, products you've brought home to listen to, etc., versus the products you've actually purchased, it's an awful lot of cost that has to be absorbed by the dealer. I've read countless posts on this forum and others of people that have brought multiple products home from the dealer (or from an e-commerce vendor) only to return it. This costs the dealer (whether brick-and-mortar or e-commerce) a lot. A lot of this returned product has to be sold as open-box or b-stock at considerably less profit, let alone the shipping cost that is often absorbed by the dealer. To stay in business, they have to make enough profit on the product they actually sell to cover their expenses.

For an audio manufacturer, they have to consider the cost vs the value added by having a brick and mortar channel. More and more are deciding they can offer more value to the consumer by keeping the dealer margin in their own coffers. 

My career has resulted in my living in a number of different areas in the country since I've been an audiophile, so I've probably shopped at 25-30 different stores. Very few of these have had listening rooms that did the products justice. In many cases, the rooms were crammed with 5 to 20 different speakers. Even in the shops that catered to high-end budgets, the speakers were not optimally set up. This isn't surprising since the dealer is trying to sell a lot of different models. 

In the more affluent markets, dealers are willing to provide home auditions which helps a lot, but this is expensive for the dealer and they have to count on a reasonable conversion rate. Too many consumers are willing to take advantage of dealers that offer this. I've seen posts from consumers that literally try a dozen or more speakers, or other components. How do they expect the dealer network to survive. 

So what's the alternative? I think for the manufacturer, the best alternative is to do what companies like PS Audio offer. They have a very nice showroom at their facility if you are willing to make the effort. They offer easy returns if you want to purchase a product and aren't happy. And they participate in many audio shows where you can compare their products against many others. By selling direct, they save the considerable dealer margin can cover a lot of customer service costs, including dealing with higher returns and supporting more audio shows.

Sorry for the long post. I look forward to hearing your thoughts and ideas. 
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I can only speak for The Greater Boston Area. I've been out of the scene for about 25 years, and as start to look around again, I'm shocked at the hollowed-out shell of what's left of the industry. First of all, there were a tremendous number of manufacturers right in the area - I used to work for one of them.

Then, there were lots of mid-fi to higher end places you could go to learn about and buy equipment. I'm sure I'll miss some, but stores like Lechmere, Highland, Tech Hi-Fi, Nantucket Sound, Cookin', Fred Locke, and countless other stores were available addressing the different level of buyer. Right now, I have the choice to go to Best Buy - many of which do not have a Magnolia inside, or one of the few high end dealers that hang there hat on integration, installation, and security systems. As a result, they have very little product in stock for you to listen to. They want to make the recommendations and order what they sell you. 

As far as walking into a place, auditioning components and making a same day purchase, I'm stuck with Best Buy and the salespeople there might be working in the white goods department and be wandering about in audio video. They are of almost no help. And the listening areas are generally a horror. The stores that have Magnolia showrooms inside are better. But the salespeople know even less than I do and I haven't shopped for (as a consumer) or written about (as my job) an A/V component since 1997 or so. It's discouraging. 

Next year I'm planning to purchase a system that will serve 50/50 audio and home theater duties. I suspect I'm going to have to go the direct route. It's a little disturbing to fork over thousands of dollars for speakers that I've never heard. I'm thinking about building a system around Tekton speakers. As nice as having an in-home review period is, I'm 55, and I need to be unpacking and repacking 100# speakers like I need to start smoking again...

But we return to the OP. Options are small. 
@audiokinesis - I think PAP has a slight advantage in that it requires the consumer to put in a fair amount of their own effort to put the speakers together, and the speakers themselves require a larger than average listening environment, so customers that order these speakers are more likely fairly confident that they will want to keep them. 

PAP also probably has lower shipping costs than more conventional speakers of similar size since they are shipped in pieces, and don't have a huge, heavy enclosure (although it's not exactly light). 

But I agree, it is an interesting approach. 

@larry5729 - I completely agree that consumers are missing out. But I don't think TV advertising is a cost effective solution for manufacturers. As you pointed out, only a very small percentage of homes have even a mid-fi sound system these days. Unless you are appealing to a significant percentage of the viewing audience (with the possible exception of extremely high margin pharmaceuticals), TV advertising just isn't viable. 

I did a TV ad for my bike shop for the local audience and ran it during the Tour de France TV coverage on Comcast. This might have been worth doing once since I was trying to raise awareness for a relatively new shop and the Tour de France was a very focused audience, and since it was such a niche audience, ad rates were relatively low. I also had internal staff that created the content. Even so, I couldn't justify doing this twice given the return.

It might be worth it for a large store in a metro area to run a TV commercial, but probably only if they were also advertising more mainstream products (large-screen TVs) and got some financial support from their vendors. I have seen this type of commercial occasionally in my area, and particularly radio ads. 

For manufacturers, getting articles in general magazines that are typically read by more affluent readers (Forbes, New Yorker, Architecture Digest, Conde Nast, inflight airline magazines,  etc.) probably makes more sense, and I have seen these every once in a while. 

It's challenging when you have a fairly niche market. I don't think most consumers have the buying power they once did, and personal music players (ipods, smart phones) have really taken over as the primary mode in which people listen to music (sadly).

Even friends that are blown away after listening to my 2-channel system or watching a movie on my home theater would still not consider making the investment in a decent system. It's just not a priority for most people any longer.
@spacecadet65 - I used to live in the Boston area (Carlisle) and shopped at Goodwin's (when they were in Harvard square before their fire, and then in Alan's apartment - I moved out of the area before he opened his new store in Waltham) and at Natural Sound in Natack. Are these shops still around? Are they some of the shops that are now focused on home installs?
Larry, as others mentioned, the cost of tv exposure is far too high, and with the advent of the internet, Netflix, etc, it’s so scattered that unless you’re marketing a large already well known brand ( meaning much larger than the audiophile market) or a very well funded startup spending huge to capture a market, it’s not going to happen. Just advertising something doesn’t create a demand. That might help you take market share from other competitors, but unless you have something new, unique, highly desirable, you need to figure a new approach to create new interest. Not get your name in front of someone already in the marketplace, as that doesn’t grow the market, though it’s possible to grow your brand like that. I imagine the best chance for that is home theater, and two channel is a smaller market with less interest generated over what they’re listening to from their phones and headphones. 
As a manufacturer, importer and retailer who is focused on-line (though I do have multiple products I can't list on-line) this is an interesting thread.  

Finding the right solution is extremely difficult.  One idea I have had is that I am considering putting together "tester" products that are in mediocre aesthetic condition, are used, etc... and let customers "borrow them" via fat Llama.  The "fee" for borrowing is the return shipping.  

If you buy a new product I would wave the fee.  You have no choice about color or finish, etc... but you get to hear the product.  Fat Llama is essential to protect the retailer from having the product stolen.  

Still doesn't solve the problem for very large speakers or massive amplifiers which need to be shipped LTL freight where return shipping would be $1000 but it is an interesting idea for smaller, lighter products.