I've got a pair of Transparent Gen5 Super speaker cables. 10'. I know the Ultras are a step up from the Supers but the price I'm offering might make it worth it for you. Will list here at A'gon if interested.
Upgrading Speaker Cables: Wireworld Silver Eclipse or Transparent Audio Ultra?
More than 15 years ago, I bought a set of speaker cables to accompany my then brand new Revel Ultima Studios and Krell FPB amplifiers. While I continue to adore the sound of my system, I know there have been a lot of advancements in cable technology this century. Consequently, I believe that a [relatively] low cost upgrade would be a purchase of new speaker cables. (I have no intent to replace either my speakers or my amplifiers at this time.) I live in an area that is several hundred miles distant from any high end dealer, so doing a sonic audition of cables is infeasible; moreover, I could not duplicate my combination of other sources, amplifiers, interconnect cables, and power cords -- as well, of course, of my room environment.
All that being said, I have done tons of reading about speaker cables these past few months. The result of my efforts has been to narrow down my two upgrade choices (both bi-wired) to Transparent Audio's Ultras and Wireworld Cable's Silver Eclipse. Coincidentally, their respective MSRPs are between $50 of each other.
Ideally, I would love to read responses from other Audiogon members who have actually auditioned one cable against the other. That is likely to be nigh unto impossible because I have been unable to identify a single dealer who carries both lines. Consequently, I would be delighted to receive anyone's thoughts about the pluses and minuses of each individual cable.
Many thanks to all who provide their much appreciated insights!
All that being said, I have done tons of reading about speaker cables these past few months. The result of my efforts has been to narrow down my two upgrade choices (both bi-wired) to Transparent Audio's Ultras and Wireworld Cable's Silver Eclipse. Coincidentally, their respective MSRPs are between $50 of each other.
Ideally, I would love to read responses from other Audiogon members who have actually auditioned one cable against the other. That is likely to be nigh unto impossible because I have been unable to identify a single dealer who carries both lines. Consequently, I would be delighted to receive anyone's thoughts about the pluses and minuses of each individual cable.
Many thanks to all who provide their much appreciated insights!
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@auxinput You've posted here enough to realize what a canard the old silver is bright line is eh? @b4icu Of course, size is not all that matters with cables. Purity of conductors, nature of dielectric, cable geometry, connector quality all matter. What we do with our systems is all about the system. Finding that synergy of components and cables and footers and equipment stands also the nature of our listening space, all and more make up our system. Working toward that audiophile utopian experience is what our quest as audiophiles is all about. How much like the real thing can I experience from my system? Agree with others here that borrowing a few pairs of cables from a place like the Cable Company might help you find the speaker cables that bring the music closer to you in your system. Happy hunting! |
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oldhvymec Earth is not flat and my cable are not coming from radio shack. Your preaching post doesn't ref. to the facts I presented about Silver vs. Copper price and conductivity. thats facts. For your say: " Different cables, can and do sound different." YES, they do. But why? Well I figure it out. Did you? I will give you a hint: It's not the snake oil that some tend to claim for the sound improvement. It is physical, calculated and proven. So regardless of you bright and long post, there is no say. It's just about you "Big" vs. others "Small". |
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hifiman5 Wrong! "Purity of conductors, nature of dielectric, cable geometry, connector quality all matter." Purity: Did you know, that the copper wire industry STD. for copper purity for electric use, is 99.98%. That's the worst! All purity you may add (none was proven beyond the claim it is!) can improve that by 0.02%. There is no way that would make any sonic difference. Nature of electric apply to all circuits and wires to do with electric circuitry. None but Audio cable have that property. NASA, Military, Biomedical, Measuring Instruments, cell phones, computers, cars industry or any you may bring, way more important than audio, work without that Geometry, snake oil or "nature of dielectric" that no engineering institute from MIT to local college ever teach. Save it from me, serve it to the ignorants. I have a degree in Electronics. |
b4icu328 posts07-28-2020 1:21am Let’s start with what I wrote, I said Radio Shack, new better cables "sounded" better, not you own radio shack cables. That being said, you use to be able to buy a lot of good thing at Radio Shack. So a degree in electronics makes you what? Not able to learn NOW? Your all filled up. Can’t put another smart thing in that head... LOL You’ve learned it all, now you know the difference, between a mechanic and an you, "The engineer". Mechanics never stop learning, they just die. The first thing engineers use to learn on a job site, was, LISTEN to the ol mechanic. He’s got the hands and the EARS, to hear the problem. I’ve never met, ONE that could.. I had to teach every, young engineer, old engineer, and "The engineer", what to listen for. I have worked with some GREAT, sound, civil, and mechanical, engineers. All the electrical engineers became electricians, so they could get paid, when they worked. LOL Engineers make things, mechanics fix things, engineers make! So we’re clear, many thing I use to fix, an engineer, put their hands on. Though they new what they were talking about, just like you... It ALWAYS took a mechanic or just a GRUNT to finish the whole thing.. Look at NASA, same gig.. mechanics not engineers put the WHOLE thing together. Same UNION.. IAM. What a person can and can’t hear, can’t always be measured. Some can hear it, some can’t. Some THINK they can hear it, when there is no difference. Others, won’t hear it, if there is a difference. THEY know, what I hear...Sure they do.. DF and la-te-da.. I wish you well, on your quest, to inform the world about cables, BUT the earth IS FLAT.. and everyone know that. and I have no STDs, last check anyways... You know your STDs and my STDs might be different. Last DF measurement, that is.. Regards |
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