Upgrading Speaker Cables: Wireworld Silver Eclipse or Transparent Audio Ultra?

auxinput2,166 posts07-28-2020 6:49am

@auxinput You’ve posted here enough to realize what a canard the old silver is bright line is eh?

sorry, but I have done extensive listening and testing with silver components. Silver interconnects, silver fuses, silver digital cable. It is largely system dependent, but they all add a level of brightness and sterileness. If you have very warm sounding equipment, then silver might add some speed, but with the combination of Revel Studio and Krell FPB, the likelyhood of creating a bright edge is high.

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Why on the bright side?

I picked up USAF surplus #12 pure silver medium strand count. It had a poly/teflon cover .60 thick. That wire took over 2000 hours to finally sound really, REALLY good. That was 25 or so years ago. I learned that silver cable/wire take a LONG time to sound anywhere close to the way it can.
I use to think VTL was very bright for a tube amp. It just takes 1000 plus hours for the silver SC wire to settle in. Then, like magic they just start sounding RIGHT..

A lot of Valve amps are voiced with copper just for that reason, they don’t sound GREAT for a long time, add teflon coupling caps, holly cow. Easy 1000 + hours... That’s 6 months at 40 hours a week, or 12 months at 20 hours a week... or 2 years at 10 hours a week, or 4 years at 5 hours a week. See what I’m saying.. A lot of people never hit 5 hours a week of listening. At 2.5 hours a week of listening, EIGHT years to break in a system with silver and teflon caps.

The truth of it is, a LOT of systems, never break in... NOT BURN IN!
I never heard the term in all the year I been doing this, until recent.
I hope I never BURN IN anything.. Break in yea...Burn in...LOL
I use a cable cooker, may I never BURN the cables, only break them in and give them a better, direction to be installed.

With silver cables and a cooker, 10 + day at 24/7 and 200 or so hooked up where they are in service and working.

Copper PC 5 day. Speaker ICs 3-5 days, and 20-75 hours to settle in on both.

Silver clad, MS oh my.. they are brighter than most. Many day on the ol cooker, RCA and XLR 10 days, speaker IC.. I don’t use it..15 days or so...I’d guess for # 12-14

I know, cable cooker don’t work either.
They only, don’t work, if you don’t have one, to work... :-)

Regards

The speakers I use with Transparent Ultra are Focal Kanta 2s, and the amp is a Levinson 585.

@mikemeeks. Great equipment.  Is there any way you could characterize an element or two of the Ultras vs. the Supers that really stood out?

@several posters.  Would you mind taking your off-topic dialogue to a new posting you start?  You might find that a pertinent  topic header might even attract more participants to your discussion.

@new readers.  Amy comments about the Wireworld Silver Eclpises would be especially welcome.

Mr.  mikemeeks
For your  Levinson 585
https://www.stereophile.com/content/mark-levinson-no585-integrated-amplifier-specifications
With a DF of >400, at a 10ft. length cable, I would recommend you a #0 awg cable.
Make one (DIY) for under $100 and you will be thrilled from the sound improvement. 
 

@jmeyers The two key differences for me was a deeper and better articulated bass and a smoother but also more detailed upper midrange and lower treble.  Overall, more relaxed and more musical.  On my system, the differences were pretty obvious - no ‘golden ears’ needed.