DAC - Streamer or all in one unit

@mahler


Many thanks. brevirty online seems the current ettiquette though it leaves a lot to be desired.

FYI
I own a Bel Canto DAC e One ver 3.
in a week or so, a Synology 719 twin bay NAS. necessary to retrieve older data off of a former syn NAS which I brutally slew.

beyond these, a handful of former class leading pieces and cabling now entering antiquity which have seen little or no use for some time. years in some cases.

and its now time to get back on the audio treadmill at least for a bit and assemble a new rig. the antiques will likely trickle down into a lesser array.

I have only 60K tracks or about 375GB of music. 85% in lossless. 5% in HD

all is available on various yet redundant SATA or USB HDD

I own an Apple USB Super Drive.

current subscriptions are to: Apple Music, and Spodofy.

I’ve tried desperately to use Tidal and the popular French streamer though each has no truck with being made accessible to adaptive software or screen readers. naturally then, the notion here is a lot of hope that the ‘whatever’ server/streamer app will be more friendly on my iphone or ipad.

BTW, good point to reflect that streamers are merely PCs or servers in disguise. which I had forgotten.

my EXP with the streamer plus dAC has been with some quite high end units, e.g., Berkley, Mitner, EMM labs, DCS & MSB stacks, and Bel Canto. EMM and BC offer a DAC whose ambition and service is for use as a pre as well. of the lot, I like how the eMM Labs and Aurender play together. BC’s latest effort is not ffar behind IMO either.

albeit, I’m not sure if I really want to pitch that amount of ducketts at a DAC. Lampy’s upper end as well would be another option and still, the 20k plus entry fee there gives me some trepadation.

the missing link for me is getting a first hand close in exam of the percieved disparities in performance from these stellar performers to that of those in say, $7 to $12K arena, as is the present not terribly well thought out budget for the proposed source component. those like Cord DAVE, Ayre, Bryston, Benchmark, Mydac, auralic, etc.

as for listening preffs, mine are always landing on organic, natural, reality, yet with detail, excellent imaging and a balanced expression of the entire bandwidth while the lower octaves are not rendered anemic. I likey a strong botom end which is all too often left lacking somehow.

my main bug a boo is I actually could buy the Lampy Pacifica, or EMM Labs dD2, but feel this time around to stay in a ‘real world’ approach so the whole deal lands well under 75k or there abouts.

still gotta choose power, speakers racks or stand, wires, power line conditioning and treat the room. power will be ‘glass’ and speakers likely will be horns. though all is not set into stone, not even the overall financial investment. I just hope to remain sane along the way.

I like my Directstream DAC.  FPGA with free updates will keep it current. Darko liked it equal to a $12K Chord Dave.
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I put my music on SSD's and find it easier and better SQ than my Synology.
You could drop all your tracks on:
https://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-Rugged-Portable-External/dp/B07RMYGZ1L/ref=sxts_sxwds-bia-wc-p1...
and have plenty room for ripping more.
I also recommend Magna Mano and miniDSP SHD Studio streamers.  Both have different feature sets.

agree w many of the comments above

keep streamer and dac separate - streamer/interface technology still sorting out, moving target, lots of half ass solutions, whereas DAC technology has now advanced to the point that very very good sound can be had for $1000, whereas just few years back you needed to spend multiples of that for similarly good sound

since covid shut in in february i have climbed the learning curve - tried several streamers, close to 20 DACs... have a very good feel for what is out there, what is available

key conclusion is with a modest streamer properly connected to a $1000-1500 DAC one can have SQ that truly rivals excellent analog with zero apologies ... it won’t sound quite like analog with LP playback's sympathetic distortions, but nonetheless will sound clean, tonality rich, image very well, sound very real...

@fuzztoane
Thanks.

@jjss49
much appreciated. good insights and your EXP is certainly . valued.

Usually I try to seek that line where diminishing returns begins to announce itself and maybe take one more step.

garnering the input to date, I’ll be keeping to the theme of using separates for my digital front end. I was leaning that way anyhow.

now… which one

I went with the BC DAC 3 as it had the sonic attributes I enjoyed and or desired in that system. strong leading edge definition.
dynamic.
detailed.
healthy bottom end impact and definition. sort of akin to a Dodge Viper than a BMW 500/700 series in terms of raw horse power , or so I wrote in my review of the BC D3 back then in these pages.

as a source I feel it must have the aforementinoed characteristics along with excellent imaging or one should look elsewhere..

could you recall some of the more recently released (2018 - 2020) DACs in the $3K to $6K MSRP range which possess such a voice so I could look into them a bit?

huge thanks!