As long as it's what I hear not what I assume I hear while looking at it.
Discussion of Class D Amps Application & Experiences
With all the time off that our current situation has allowed recently, I became intrigued by the idea of class D amplification. I have always been against this type of amplifier but the more I have read the more I have also learned. There are lots of threads here on this subject many of which result in arguments about which amplifier class is better. I do not want to do that here. As I consider a class D amp I need to let you know that I currently use a fairly powerful class A/B SS amp and pre-amp into an efficient pair of speakers rated at 4 ohms. My choice of equipment has always been focused on musicality over absolute detail. I want the music to sound natural and not sterile. I seem to have achieved that sound. If I switched to class D amplification that would also be my intended goal although a bit more refined detail would be fine. I have considered pairing the amp with a tube pre to help achieve my desired sound. So why would I change? My goal would be to save money over my current gear while maintaining my desired sound.
I have researched brands such as Nord, Primare, AGD & Nuprime. I have also looked at brands such as Jeff Rowland & Merrill but those are way out of my price range. My target would be $6000 - $7000 or less. I'm about performance not price. So given that background information I would like to hear from those who have made the leap, what your experience has been (likes and dislikes), what amp did you replace and any comments about one brand over the other. Your experience with demos etc. Do you use a tube or SS line stage?
Thanks
I have researched brands such as Nord, Primare, AGD & Nuprime. I have also looked at brands such as Jeff Rowland & Merrill but those are way out of my price range. My target would be $6000 - $7000 or less. I'm about performance not price. So given that background information I would like to hear from those who have made the leap, what your experience has been (likes and dislikes), what amp did you replace and any comments about one brand over the other. Your experience with demos etc. Do you use a tube or SS line stage?
Thanks
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It is all about trusting yourself. Back in the late 70s my friend knew the owner of Sumiko (who imported Supex cartridges, among other things)....so he borrowed 10 brand new Supex cartridges and we mounted each on on a universal head shell and put a number on each one with masking tape. We spent all day listening over and over again to each one.....and all three of us in the room agreed on which ones sounded best. A couple were not very good at all.....most were in the middle and three were at the top......and one was clearly the best. The frequency readout sheets that came with each cartridge showed practically the same response on each one......which had no correlation with the sound they gave. Once you do these kinds of listening tests with others in the room (all of whom are open minded) then you really start to trust what you hear. I have been mind blown several times over the years.....I would think this "MU Metal" cable cannot sound good.....no way.....then it does sound good.....of course, there are way better cables now than those Lindsay-Geyer cables...... I sure hope that today’s cartridges are less variable than those made back then....BTW, we did the same test with 5 Fidelity Research cartridges and they all sounded different, as well. |
All audios journeys are tied to dollars and rooms My room is huge volumetrically speaking: ~ 20 x 40 x 12ft peak in open beam ceiling, front wall is 70% glass floor to ceiling, while the back wall is actually 3 sided all glass from floor to ceiling, plus up/down stairwell in the middle of one long wall, all of which add up to needing more umph to load this room. Approximately 3-4 years ago I purchased Emerald Physics KCIIs knowing they would be out of their depth, BUT, they came with a BOM (bass management) and I already had 2 @ 12" SVS powered subs, whose volume controls are the WORST, driving the amps to play WAY too loud when barely cracked, and was hoping the BOM would solve it, but no bueno. I even have an pair of EVS attenuators, which I tried on the SVS sub inputs running their built in VC at full volume, but adjusting the attenuators starting low, again no bueno. Various Class D amps included Emerald Physics 100.2 SE monos with upgraded fuses, but they didn’t do it for me, followed by Audio Alchemy DPA-1, followed by PS Audio M700s, which did a very good job, and I would have kept them longer, BUT, they are stock, AND, at that time (a year ago?) Ric introduced the EVS 1200, which was only a couple hundred dollars more then what I knew I could sell the M700s for. For me that was a no brainer, whether I need all that power or not, it is a hot rod of Rics tweaking abilities. And, I totally agree that bigger power supplies can be HUGE on smaller wattage amps The 1200 combined with the 3.4s is quite magical on quality recordings, but lower bass is still missing IN THIS ROOM. I have been impatiently waiting for EP 2.8s which are 97db when single amped. The speakers are arranged in D’Apolito each with 2 @ 15" carbon fiber woofers in addition to the same 12" carbon fiber concentric driver/ polyester tweeter as in my 3.4s. Once they’re in the system, I could evaluate your Purifi amp, and am still in line for the LSA Voyager GaN amp MSRP $3000 for 200/400wpc: I am told it has a bigger PS than needed for the same reasons Ric mentioned. It is possible that the EVS 1200 could eventually be used for the bass and one of these amps for the mids/tweeters (be still my beating heart). In this case possible likely means probable https://www.underwoodhifi.com/products/lsa-electronics hth |
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