I read this review about reviewers

winnardt

Thanks for your remarks, you are perfectly right and i cannot object or correct that because this is paleontological morphology science...

But when i was refering to man i was thinking also about the spiritual aspect of consciousness not only the morphological classification....

I am not a creationism and not a die hard Darwinian at all cost either....Reality exceed these 2 simplistic views....

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And you seem to have read me, human are apes or not, this is a free choice at the level where we live to identify our consciousness with the lowest or the highest level in the consciousness scale, and also relatively not only and solely to the modern morphology of man and apes......( by modern i mean 1 million years ) For me man is not totally reducible to actual biology....There is other sciences also useful to develop a concept of man linked to a concept of consciousness...

.Man is a complex phenomenon and it takes more than a few sciences to even only recognize the phenomenon, then using one science only to explain it is evident  dogmas and veiled superstition.... :)

I also supposed that the actual classification is on the basis of a retrospectively observed ACTUAL morphological differences between apes and man.... But there is a validity limit about this retrospective projection and analysis in the past.... Somewhere in the past there is "something" that is neither a modern apes nor a modern human, and maintaining the differences is no more scientific and valid....This hominid entity is the ancestor of modern man and modern apes....This entity is not a man nor an ape....

Man dont come directly from modern apes, but from a common source with the apes more than one million years ago and probably more...

Man coming from apes is the title of the news in nineteen century sensationalist newspapers in the ape trials in US....This is not science....This is biblical writing in reverse mode....I am not biblical nor darwinian in this limited fashion at all....

Man is a modern ape. We are primates like chimpanzees,  bonobos,  gorillas etc.., there was a common ancestor that was neither a chimpanzee or a human or a gorilla.  Humans diverged from other primates somewhere between 5 to 7 million years ago. There is no either or , no us them,  we are primates no more no less. 

Any other absolutes you care to share?

Primates are conscious like you and I....


But we have a choice they dont have now...We dont live in the same world....

We can define ourself or not.....At the level we wanted to....

Primates is a concept for a morphological classificative description not an explanation....

Let your brain think about the difference between a descriptive concept and an explicative one....

For example my "embedding" concept is a descriptive concept in audio, not an explicative concept...But if you want to understand things clearly descriptive concept like "primates" or "embeddings" are very useful, at the express condition to not confuse them with explicative concepts....

I try hard to not derail the thread actual topic : audio and biology..... and about especially some reviewers who confuse descriptive useful concept with useless explicative one....

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Any other absolutes you care to share

1+1=2