Miracles in Audio, by luck, by good choices,by design or by tweaking...

sgordon1

I immediately use the springs box with the 6 springs but modifying the load on the speakers, to adjust them.... Like i said i keep my "sandwiches" for the 2 reasons i explained...

Immediate improvement in clarity...

But without adjusting the compression around 30% can gives a result with too much inclination toward higher frequencies...It takes me 2 takes to reach the best and the best was the original load that was already on my speakers.... :)

For most people no need of a load on top of speakers at  all, keep the adjusting with calculating the right amount of springs in each box, be it 2, 3, 4 or 5 or 6...... It was more easy for me to keep my load to compress my sandwiches and the speakers....And to keep my tweeters anyway at the right height relative to my ears....

The boxes scream quality each spring in his aluminium cell are tightly adjusted...Ridiculous price.....

I did not evaluate the sound without my "sandwiches" because i dont wanted to disconnect my speakers , it would had been complicated, because i had many other things connected here and all is tightly packed near a wall corner    ...   :)

It takes me time to free the speakers acoustically from their bad location but i succeed.... It is an another story tough...

And under the springs the "sandwiches" cannot do harm on the contrary they separated my desk from the Speakers/springs system....

The spring system is very great buying no doubt....
I even just bought  another set for my amplifier few minutes ago...

The price at the adress i gives is unbeattable....

My best to you....

In my scale of S.Q. improvement increased by the way we control the embeddings,

The mechanical/vibrations/resonance embeddings is 25 % of final S.Q.

The noise floor of the house electrical grid embeddings is 35 % of the final S.Q.

The acoustical embeddings ,especially in small room, and even in nearfield listening contrary to a popular myth in audio threads, is the more impactful with 40 % of the final S.Q.




But an IMPORTANT remark :

No embeddings controls can gives all that there is to gives by itself and cannot replace the others embeddings controls at all....

If you want 100% of the possible S.Q. from your audio system you need to control ALL THREE EMBEDDINGS...

There is NO shortcut with one tweak or 2 tweak....It is better to create your own and adjust them to your own situation than buying generically created branded costly design...The price would be too high for me anyway and the results would not be better....if i had put my faith in commercial tweaks i would never have understood the concept and objects of the embeddings... And the problems would have been only partially posed...

--The mechanical embedding is relatively simple to take care of....There is many solutions, for now the "sandwiches" and the springs are my way....

--The electrical embedding is more difficult, i succeed with stones and crystals and especially with my "golden plates" which i am very proud of...

You can put a golden plate for example on your house’s main router, you cannot treat the router in particular or the external electrical meter of the house or a second electrical panel in a room, with an electronic solution devised to filters the line and very costly and NOISY because of their electronic parts....Without electronic components the "golden plates" dont introduce noise of their own coming from their parts....

--The acoustical embeddings is the more complex to take care of by far....Passive materials and active methods are mandatory here....I am very proud of my grid of different resonators all linked together to a grid of Schumann generators, and of my "golden fingers" particularly...."golden fingers" and my "twin fans" are sound diffusor device that are also partly connected resonators....Very powerful for peanuts costs...

In the passive acoustical treatment embeddings the key is the right balance for a specific room between absorption, reflection, and diffusion devices....For the active acoustical embeddings the active use of resonance and diffusion is key....

A method of listening experiments is NOT a tweak or a bunch of tweaks...Except for people unable to understand even simple problem.... Sorry....

i advise about a method not a product and the price is zero dollars for those who know how to read....

:)

By the way it is fun to play with experiments.... I just have a new idea for my acoustical embeddings few minutes ago then the sequel for the next days....

:)

UPDATE: 49 "golden Strings" + 7 cone bells resonators +H.D. each on 2 strings...= total 51 strings dangling from the ceiling.... WAF approved tough..... :)

The diffusion of sound is worked by the golden strings and the "Twin Fans", with the resonators linked throught the "Bell of BELLS" to the S.G. grid, all this worked marvellously...

I add 2 strings with 7 bell cones with an herkimer diamond in each on a 14 inches copper tape.... This is not only a diffusor device like some golden strings but an active resonator....Incredible effect on the soundstage....

The sound inhabit the room...The effect is also powerful for near listening....

I added also to the 50 "golden strings" 9 new one (2 feet) i created with tourmaline necklace...

I will not repeat adjectives about the increase in S. Q.

The springs under my speakers and the new " golden plates" add a new level of clarity, but these new diffusors devices, the golden strings and the resonators, act primarily on imaging and soundstage and also on the timbre perception by increasing the bass and higher frequencies diffusion...

Audio is a surprizing hobby and rewarding...NOT necessarily costly, except if you fall for the hype....

:)

In a word:

--Passive acoustic treatment is the art to create a balance between absorbant, reflective, and diffusive surface with inert materials...

There is no rule in the absolute, except for specifically designed acoustic room ; but with small ordinary living room, we must use the ears, because of the different acoustical properties of the material content in the room, and because of the great difference in geometry and topology room to room...And contrary to what many said, it is not only a bass trap problems and calculating the right nodes....This is too simplistic and good for those who want to sell you their materials :)


-- Active acoustic controls use more diffusion process and passive and active resonators, and Schumann generators grid, active acoustic use devices not only inert materials...

«No, sound is not only a plant, it is an animal» -Groucho Marx

The end of this thread is probably near....

I reach the limit of my actual audio system.... And it is a good one...

I will not upgrade any part because of the heavy price to pay to extend the S.Q. It will be silly except for a man richer than i am...

My speakers Mission Cyrus 781 can be upgraded, even if they are very good, especially in the bass extension.... I listen to 7 inches driver with my stomach sometimes.... The active controls of the acoustic help...Replacing it by a Top Tannoy....  :)

My Sansui AU 7700 amplifier is a marvel i know now, but A Berning TUBE ZOTL will beat it easily at 6000 dollars price and i would perhaps use it at pre-amplification for one of my 2 Sansui....

Then without changing my dac, i am already near 10,000 to upgrade... :)

My dac is too cheap cost and too good to be upgraded tough.....I have no idea if some hyped dac of this year will crush it really and at what price and which dac? :)

Replacing speakers is easy, amplifier too for me, but a dac not so easy.....How do you know if a dac is good without trying it? For dac, reviews means less than in speakers and amplifier case....

But now i am too much happy with the music i have in a marvellous natural way, on all counts, to be sorrowful because i will never be able to upgrade...

I know my audio system is limited but i dont feel it anymore at all now, like 2 years ago.... Thanks to embeddings controls....

I hope some will be inspired by my journey.....

My best.....