Springs under turntable

Adding 6 Nob loose springs under the six tube phono amp brought improved clarity, musicality, vocal diction, speed and dimensional perception of instruments in the soundstage. BUT it reduced bass weight and enhanced upper mids to the point of coloration.

They are not enough compressed.....

The rate of compression must be adjusted around 1%..... On any springs application if i go with my experience with mine....My speakers rightly adjusted gives me the better natural timbre i ever had but it takes me few days of listening....The first sign that all is rightly adjusted is NOT first the clarity, it is the naturalness of timbre, at first this new clarity induce me in error..... To decide we must listen to instrument like violin higher notes to hear their timbre, etchy or natural, lacking body or not.... :)

For turntable(i dont have one) mass loading the springs under the turntable, like recommended by rixthetrick, is the solution indeed....Then it is possible to adjust by varying the loading mass by ears around 1% ( + or -).


Using prings is NOT a tweak....

It is one of the essential way to embed the gear in the mechanical dimension of his working use....

"Tweak" are minor refinement or not, not always necessary..... Springs are indispensable tool to embed any gear in their vibration/resonance dimension (mechanical)....Tweak can modify or adding something that is not always wished for ( like my "sandwiches" that were a tweak wanting to be a control method but lacking the power of springs to be one)....Controls methods for the embedding DONT ADD something, rather they put the gear in the best of his conditions to reach his optimal level....Springs are essential and dont change the tone of my speakers at all if they are rightfully adjusted, rather they reveal the TRUE color of my speakers under the condition where vibrations/ resonance are controlled... Tweak are a fad + or - useful, or an attempt , a bid + or - successful, springs are necessary tool to any speakers.....

Just sayin for those who thinks lightly, or superficially ... :)

A bought bunch of tweaks will never be a method of listening experiments....

I may experiment with a couple springs under my phono or DAC but they will have their work cut out to beat the current porcelain ex ham radio 1" inverted cones under them right now.
These cost about 50 cents a pop from eBay and gave an astounding change in the level of detail and drop in noise floor.
This was documented in a thread by myself quite some time ago now.

I may experiment with a couple springs under my phono or DAC but they will have their work cut out to beat the current porcelain ex ham radio 1" inverted cones under them right now.

They are perhaps the tool to use for a dac better than springs..... Thanks for the information....

If you look at the third or fourth pic on my system you can see the type of cones I am using under the GoldNote phonostage.

https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/6466

**** If you don’t mind, what was the VPI HW19 MK4 with springs supported by?
What was under it please?****

rixthetrix, the table sat on either a maple shelf on a Target rack or a maple shelf on a Target wall rack/shelf. The table’s stock rubber feet had been replaced with BDR cones, same as those that replaced the stock spring suspension. A brief experiment with sorbothane pucks between table and shelf was...brief...no good. Both the stock spring suspension and the BDR cones were tried with the table on both the rack and the wall shelf. In both cases the BDR cones were much better and the differences between springs and cones were consistent with the table on either supporting surface.