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Jazz is not Blues and Blues is not Jazz.......

I have been a music fan all my life and listen to classic Jazz and female vocals mostly.  I did not see this throughout most of my life, but now some internet sites and more seem to lump Jazz and Blues into the same thought. 
B.B. King is great, but he is not Jazz.  Paul Desmond is great, but he is not Blues.   

Perhaps next Buck Owens will be considered Blues, or Lawrence Welk or let's have Buddy Holly as a Jazz artist? 

Trite, trivial and ill informed, it is all the rage in politics, why not music?




whatjd
orpheus10
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Have you ever heard John Lee Hooker play jazz? Have you ever heard Howlin Wolf play jazz? Have you ever heard Lightnin Hopkins play jazz? Have you ever heard Elmore James play jazz? Maybe there's more to it than;

but the bedrock blues pattern is One Four Five One. In Jazz, it's Two Five One. If you say it in your Do-Re-Mi's, the Blues chord progression is basically Do-Fa-So-Do. In jazz it's Re-So-Do.


I think it's more to it than that.
orpheus10
8,668 posts
 

I wonder which blues players could play this;


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImvjZ7fUUBU
acman3
4,275 posts
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxZezyzdyl8
orpheus10
8,668 posts
 

Ray Charles

Genres
R&B, soul, blues, gospel, country, jazz, rock and roll,
Occupation(s)
Musician, singer, songwriter, composer


Apparently Ray Charles does it all; consequently, he is also a "Jazz musician".
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bdp24
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Good example, @orpheus10. Ray is imo the most important and influential male singer of 20th Century Pop music (along with Hank Williams). Does that sound too "grand"? ;-)

And I consider Big Joe Turner perhaps the first Rock 'n' Roll singer. He too straddled the line separating Blues and Jazz, coming from the Kansas City Jazz scene, but recording the original version of "Shake, Rattle, & Roll" (covered by Bill Haley for the white market). I came to love Joe when I discovered the whole Jump Blues scene of the late-40's/early-50's. Great, great stuff.

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