Automatic Room Correction has won the Subwoofer Wars


Just thought of something while perusing the chats, and finding yet another "help me, I bought a subwoofer and it sounds bad" threads. 

You know what we rarely if ever see?  "Help me, I used ARC to set up my subwoofer and it sounds bad."

I think this is a strong testament to how effective these systems are to integrating a sub into an existing system, and why I'm no longer trying to help others improve as much as pointing them towards ARC as better options.

While ARC does a lot more than subwoofer integration, I think we have to admit that for most it's pretty much been a panacea.
erik_squires
As mentioned, a too-common post in audio fora is, "I got a sub, and it doesn’t sound good. Help me!" Unfortunately, trying to integrate a sub without measurement capability is a fool’s errand. That’s a tough thing for a newbie to accept, one who has spent a wad on a new sub, and who is reading audio fora and magazines where measurements often are held to be irrelevant.

In integrating subs, many people emphasize the primacy of placement, and I agree. And it’s a LOT easier to compare placements if you measure! In some rooms, nulls can’t be avoided, but if you measure, you can place the subs so they don’t have nulls at the same frequencies as the mains.

This is true whether you use DRC (digital room correction) or not.

Now you have to set up good crossover frequencies and slopes. I’ve done it both ways, and I agree, it’s far easier done by using some kind of DRC. I’m currently using Anthem’s ARC, which does an outstanding job at this. I had fine results formerly from a Tact 2.2X.

Finally, you have to adjust phase of the subs, and though it can be done without a microphone, it too is way easier with one. How many DRC systems do this automatically? ARC Genesis used with Anthem’s STR line does, but many do not.

So yes, the DRC systems really do help in setting up subs. (And as Erik said, this is independent of the EQ features.) Even more important is the measuring mic, its software, and the patience to learn how to use them.
So yes, the DRC systems really do help in setting up subs. (And as Erik said, this is independent of the EQ features.) Even more important is the measuring mic, its software, and the patience to learn how to use them.

And that's my point. 


Mijostyn, you are correct that I don't have experience with the latest in room correction, but I have no reservations anyway about its use in the subwoofer region (aside from the presumably-outdated possible latency issue).  My reservations about "room correction" occur further up the spectrum.  And in case I haven't been clear, I have no real problem with using EQ to correct the SPEAKERS north of the bass region, but I DO have reservations about using EQ to "correct" the ROOM north of the bass region.  I can explain the distinction between the two if anyone is interested. 

Duke
Sir, do you not understand my role here?? :-)
I'm going with 'no' on that one...
Seriously though the title doesn't seem to be what the thread is about.

I DO have reservations about using EQ to "correct" the ROOM north of the bass region. I can explain the distinction between the two if anyone is interested.



A distinction shared by Toole which I have to agree with.  Don't get crappy speakers and then try to fix them.