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Versatile, non-fatiguing speakers for a small room under $1500 used or new: advice needed!

Hi, first post here! And not a very original one, my apologies!:)

So after years of listening to music through miscellaneous mid-fi solutions, I am finally thinking about dipping my toes in hi-fi audio and putting together a dedicated stereo setup. Currently I am looking at speakers, and my head is already aching from the abundance of options, so I am looking for suggestions from you guys, primarily from those of you who have had first-hand experience building a stereo in a small room like mine and achieved results they are happy with.

My room is pretty small (approx. 13’ x 10’), and I will be placing my speakers along the long wall. My listening position will be 6 feet away, give or take; plus the speakers will have to sit fairly close to the front wall. 15 inches from the back of the speaker would be nice, but if needed, I definitely I could move them out farther into the room (up to 20 inches from the back of the speaker), for listening sessions and then move them back again. There are several rows of shelves , filled with CDs and stuff, in the middle of the back wall above my head (not wall-to-wall though) - would that work as dispersion? I’m thinking of applying some room treatment behind the speakers, and on the right-hand side wall as well (if needed) - on the left hand side is a window covered with thick curtains.

Budget: under $1500 used or new.
I listen to all kinds of music, primarily rock of all eras and subgenres (blues/folk/prog/hard/art/psych/indie, etc), jazz, blues, classical, acoustic, singer-songwriters, female vocal, 80s new wave/post punk, some heavy metal. So the speakers need to be as versatile as possible. As someone who likes rock music, the bass is important, but I live in an apartment (neighbors!), so I have to find the right balance there as I don’t want to overload the room - the bass has to be there but under control and not boomy. I want as big a sound as possible in my small room without overpowering it. In general, I’m looking for engaging, non-fatiguing, dynamic sound with good midrange and tone, with enough punch to rock out when needed, nuance to play softer, more sparse types of music, and resolution so the details in fast complex passages don’t get lost or smeared. Not a fan of excessive brightness, sibilance, or harshness in the upper midrange.

I’m primarily looking at standmounts, but maybe certain smaller floorstanders would be fine? I’ve seen opinions claiming floorstanders are the way to go, regardless of the size of the room. What do you think would be preferable in my situation - apartment with neighbors, 13’x10’ room, long wall positioning, distance to speakers about 6 feet, maybe less?

Thanks!
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soix
9,583 posts
 
Agree with recommendations for ProAc, Harbeth, and Wharfedale given sound you’re looking for. If you can find them, I’d add used Nola Boxers that should be within your budget.

That said, in your situation I’d go with some monitors and a small sub. You like bass when called for, and small monitors alone will likely leave you wanting in that department. Floorstanders could help, but given the size of your room you could be facing some bass overload/angry neighbors. The small sub would get you better and deeper bass than cheaper floorstanders can provide, and you can alter placement/volume/phase so you get good bass in your room without pissing off the neighbors — or at least not as much.

One specific recommendation would be Silverline Minuet Supreme+ monitors for $700/pr and an SVS SB1000 sub (will get you down to 24Hz) for $500 both new.  I’d also spring for the $50 SVS SoundPath footers that will help further with both isolation and bass quality. For an amp I’d consider a NuPrime IDA-8 that has great sound/technology, plenty of power for the Minuets, a good internal DAC, and a subwoofer output. It’s around $1000 new I think but can be found used around $600. IMHO that’d be one fine-sounding, near-full-range system given your tastes, constraints, and budget. Add a streamer like a Bluesound Node 2i and you’re done (except for cables and speaker stands of course).  Hope this helps, and best of luck in your search.
ebm
9,311 posts
 
Jump on ELAC asap!!
yyzsantabarbara
4,885 posts
 
Room treatments do little to address modal problems in a small room. I tried. Minimal benefits. And do you really want to fill a small room with 10inch ugly looking panels?
In my experience this statement is 100% wrong for my system and room. I tried and it was fantastic improvement. I did this in my office and listen about 8 hours a day. 

In my office I could care less what they look like so I went with the cheapest set from GIK. However, if aesthetics is important GIK and others have some artistic looking panels for a higher price.

Audiophile Style web site has some excellent articles by Acoustic Sounds from Canada about using DRC. These are the guys I will outsource my DRC too. Not too expensive either.
reven6e
44 posts
 
If you have a bright sounding room dispersion / absorption helps. But why would you spend 700$ to address a speaker problem (metal tweeter) when you could put the difference towards a better speaker with a soft dome tweeter?

As for bass, I am not a believer in absorption treatment / bass traps unless you are talking big, massive panels. You can achieve at least as good results with several small subwoofers. 
nquery
103 posts
 
@op I have pretty much the exact same setup in my 2nd room. 10 x 14 with speakers on the long wall. I have gone through many pairs of speakers there and my favorites in that kind of space so far are ATC SCM11 v2’s or the smaller SCM 7’s. They are sealed and work very very well up against the front wall. They can be had used for just under your $1500 budget. You could then add a subwoofer in one of the corners to fill out the bass at some point if you want to (moreso with the SCM 7's).
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