A powerful and non technical musical test for your audio system :
Take a copy of Bruckner 9 th symphony, by Celibidache in my case, And listen to it attentively...
Do you perceive the intricate dynamical geometry between smoothness and intensity, punctuated by silence ?....Do you sense easily the difference between, the brass family, the wood instruments family and the strings family, their slow interpenetrating dances and complex successive motives transformations.... Do you SEE it?
If yes, it is because your system allow accurate timbre reproduction and 3-d imaging that help to perceive the dynamical interplays between musical motives in a 3 dimensions space out of the speakers....
If yes, your audio system is then able to give you an audiophile experience indeed....
If not, dont panic and especially DONT upgrade anything tomorrow...
Read my posts about the 3 embeddings dimensions and controls....
Any relatively good system must give to you what i describe while listening Bruckner....
By the way dont said to me that you dont like Bruckner.... Say instead i never perceived this beautiful dynamical geometry and i dont have a clue about what you speak about.... I will say to you that probably you had never perceived these beautiful motives because your system is badly embedded and dont help you at all.... You probably dont need any upgrade, just some minute attentive listening concentration time in setting your embeddings controls for the months to come and trust me it is fun....And rewarding....
And you are lucky because without clues it takes me few years to figure it out....I has given to you some creative ideas in this thread about the embeddings then it will takes you months and not years..... Be creative and enjoy without throwing money in illusions....
My best to all....
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UPDATE:
My new device acoustical control:
2 "Golden Plates" + 9 Herkimer diamonds( mini sticks) on them, the copper side glued to the ceiling, between the speakers and my listening regular position, and connected to my " Bell of bells" wich is connected also to my my Schumann generators grid....
I never think that an improvement was possible from my last one but there is always place for improvement..... :)
Increase of S.Q. in all counts....Imaging is better and all the other qualities of sound....And that in my 2 listening positions, regular and nearfield....
I read in other thread many people complaining about useless costly "tweaks".... My device controls are my creation, cost peanuts, give an incremental increase in positive S.Q. each time....
No " tweak" can give more than a small increase on a count or on another, my device controls are not "tweak" they are not a singular device, they are the results of an ongoing set of listenings experiments and are mainly ALL linked together by copper cable....
I wrote in some thread that my actual audio system is unrecognizable and bear no resemblance with before and after my installation of my many device controls on the 3 embeddings...
Am i nut? Or is the crowd which passively consumes advertising never try anything of their own ? i will let you answer....
I was like that myself 7 years ago, but without money you create or you suffer with the frustration because you cannot afford the dreamed upgrade...I decided to create my own devices then....
Some even wrote that the only way is costly upgrade of electronic components...Sheep think indeed that the way to go is behind the last sheep....
What can i say?
Be creative and dont assume any opinion, except for precise technical point from specialist, not anythging more, because they will persuade you that it is nut or impossible by the book....
Do you think any acoustical engineer will try my unexplanable means to modify the acoustic of a room?
The truth is , hell no.... But i think even acoustical science is more complex than sellers of acoustical solutions think....
If i am nut i am happy like heaven resident with my music experience....
Be creative and inspire yourself with my crazy ideas..... You will have fun at peanut cost and a better, way better, audio experience, to the point like myself to smile about any future upgrade.....
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When i started this thread, if you read my first post, you will know that i never intended this thread to be my personal diary about my audio journey...
I waited for others testimonies, but it seems that except for buying a new audio component, the only miracles were my own creations....
I must stay still and less vocal on all thread about my experience and experiments....I hate provocating negative reactions... But my journey is now too crazy to be believe anyway then...I would not believe my own thread if i was someone else , but being creative i will try some crazy ideas for sure.... I hope others will after reading me....
For my last control device, the 2 "golden plates" +9 H.D. on the ceiling, the audible effect is not subtle at all, but powerful, in regular and nearfield listening and remember that:
My device controls at the difference with a "tweak" are all cabled and connected one with another in a single grid....
This is the incremental steps ladder of my listenings experiments that guide me, one step at a time, to each addition of a connected ( by copper cable) new device....
"Tweaks" are secondary, costly sometimes, addition to an audio system... My device controls grid is not a secondary addition that add a little something to the S.Q.... My cabled grid of devices controls modify totally my audio system on a new level of S.Q.
My concept of the three embeddings controls comes from this ongoing listenings experiments experience....
The "golden plates" are the only device tough i use simultaneously in the electrical grid embedding control and in the acoustical embedding control...
Other many devices used are mention in this thread....
And the 2 only devices i bought new, i modified them, the cheap chinese Schumann generator grid, and the Nobsound chinese version of springs boxes....
I never envision to transform this thread in a personal journal, i hope that it was useful and fun for some....
A last remark:
Most people when they speak about their "marvellous " audio system boast about the basic electronic component they have bought: dac, speakers, amplifiers etc...
I own good component also but i discover that never mind the components, the embeddings controls ONLY are the key to audiophile top experience.... No audio component can reach his potential higher S.Q. anyway without these embeddings controls grids....Even one million dollars one....
Upgrading urges, before embedding rightfully what we have, result from advertisement myth and tactic and illusion...
These last remark is the reason for all my thread and rants against some general opinions.....
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Update:
I will call "Golden Resonators" my connected 2 "golden plates" with 9 Herkimer Diamond sticks on them glued to my ceiling...They are cabled to my Shumann grid generators...
Final results after 2 days of listening are fabulous for imaging and all other counts.... An improvement in the acoustical embedding across the scale, especially an increase in depth imaging...In regular and nearfield position...Each steps on the last 2 years has been a step to a better S.Q. each time proving incrementally to me the necessity of the embeddings controls....
After my application of a fine-tuned differential compressing force on the 2 sets of 4 boxes springs on each speaker under their damping load, my mechanical embedding is very good on the isolation count and on the resonance count....
I think that with these perhaps not optimal but at least minimal embeddings controls my audio system is working on another level from his point of departure.... My goal is achieved...
My most important discovery seems to be the "Golden plates" that i use for 2 embeddings, the electrical grid and the acoustical dimension...
Remember that my acoustical embedding controls are not a "tweak" they are all connected by cables in a singular entity through my modified Schumann generators grid....
A "tweak" is a secondary addition to an audio system, my embeddings controls are the soul of my audio system, without them i would think that my audio system is perhaps not trash but under par to most hi-fi one....I dont think that at all now....It is not the best for sure that money can afford, but trust me it is enough to listen to music and forget sound limitations on any musical style , even Bruckner Symphonies...
Acoustician dont use that kind of controls in a small room, generally they advocate passive room treatment, or bass treatment or to begins with "the bass problem" and will regard me "nut" to do otherwise and to do anything like the crazy experiments i was working with....Especially if they sell something.... :)
But anyway acoustic is a far more complex field that most think it is, even for some acoustician hypnotized by linear computerized equations....Our ears, especially the biased one so to speak, cannot be reduced to simple formulas for the times being... :)
But anyway the results are there: No comparison between the same speakers, dac, and amplifier, after the implementation of the embeddings controls and after....
To this day my humble 500 dollars system is the best i listen to, even with my actual speakers that are good but not on the same level than my past bigger Tannoys Dual concentric Gold....But an embed audio system is most of the times better or on a par with many costlier one...
Upgrading is an obsessive illusion, most of the times unnecessary, especially if the audio system has never been rightfully embed...
My journey touch the end....
My wife smile saying that i lie, she wait for a new idea coming from his nut husband....But she is happy that i never spend the 15 thousand dollars i dreamed to spend for audio 7 years ago anticipating my retirement....It is no more useful .... :)
Music is music when you have it at last....
My best to all...
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Update:
My new acoustical control device:
2 small Copper bowls+H.D. cabled to the Schumann Generators grid
(buddhist offering copper bowls paid a few bucks)
The 2 bowls, which had the dimension of an open palm of the hand, are located almost straight up to my ears under the ceiling, and they are connected one with the other and also directly to the 2 "golden resonators" in the center of the ceiling, connected also directly to the "Bell of bells" and like i said connected to the S.G. grid also directly...
These interconnections are very important to keep all that balanced and makes of all my "tweaks" not "tweaks" but really only ONE acoustical device control in the singular and not a sum of disparate elements...
Acoustics is not only about absorbing, reflecting, or diffusing materials, but also about putting in place an "atmospheric" active control of the room through my active Schumann generators grid modified with "golden plates"+H.D. on each one (12 cheap chinese S.G. now )which i called the stones grid, the many resonators grids(different size and shapes), creating then ONE control device that balance all frequencies with their spectral content through an active control which is also a tagging, a kind of beacons grid, that regulate the information that the flowing waves gives to the ears....I am not a scientist anyway, i only want to understand what i create for myself that transform my audio system for a very ordinary S.Q. to another totally new S.Q. and better one at peanuts costs ...
These 2 connected copper bowl with an herkimer diamond in their center for balance produce powerful effect, audible in timbre perception and imaging at my 2 listenings position, nearfield or regular one....
I even not dreamed a month ago that i will go toward thiskind of improvement....It seems that more it is interconnected, more varied the resonators are, more the spectral content of the reflected waves of sound and the direct waves of sound are synchronised and gives me a spectacular more natural image and timbre...
Calling that a " tweak" is totally beside the point, it is not a relatively efficient SECONDARY"addition" to the audio system; it is a new way to recreate completely and reconfigure the acoustic of a small room , it is a PRIMARY fundamental tool for me without which my good system, without these acoustical, mechanical and electrical controls, is like a "trash" or some frustrating system waiting to be replace or "upgraded"....
I am very proud of my listenings experiments because no one anywhere has ever use that kind of tools it seems not at this level of improvement and at this low costs at least....
In audio experience, listenings experiments are more useful than money it seems for me at least.....
In this crumbling "old world" music help me a lot to keep my health and sanity....
My best to all....
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