Springs under turntable


I picked up a set of springs for $35 on Amazon. I intended to use them under a preamp but one thing led to another and I tried them under the turntable. Now, this is no mean feat. It’s a Garrard 401 in a 60pound 50mm slate plinth. The spring device is interesting. It’s sold under the Nobsound brand and is made up of two 45mm wide solid billets of aluminum endcaps with recesses to fit up to seven small springs. It’s very well made. You can add or remove springs depending on the weight distribution. I had to do this with a level and it only took a few minutes. They look good. I did not fit them for floor isolation as I have concrete. I played a few tracks before fitting, and played the same tracks after fitting. Improvement in bass definition, speed, air, inner detail, more space around instruments, nicer timbre and color. Pleasant surprise for little money.
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Duke explained this some 2 years ago (that I saw, and probably before that) and it was one of the many facts that helped convince me to build my DBA. 

Audio is full of complex concepts and this is a big one: human beings DO NOT hear all frequencies the same. Not at all. Not even close. Therefore we need to think differently- in some cases like this one very radically differently- depending on what part or aspect of the sound we are talking about.  

Its not like we don't perceive all kinds of detail that we ascribe to bass. I say ascribe to bass because it seems impossible for these things to actually be "in the bass".  

For example it has been noted by myself, Tim, and others with multiple subs that the subs disappear while the bass appears to be very localizable in terms of being totally integrated into the sound stage. Yet there is no way that information is coming from the bass. It has to be coming from higher frequencies. Our brains map out or create the image of bass in a location, probably same as they create the image of a singer in between the speakers. The result we hear is stable 3D localizable bass, even though in reality the bass is pure volume, the location of the subs has nothing to do with it. 

This is easily proven. Everyone with a DBA has moved them around trying to find better and better locations. Everyone who has done this talks about how even the frequency response is. Frequency response is volume. Nothing else. Volume. Not a one of us ever said we moved a sub and the location of the bass changed. Not a one. Because there is no location information in bass that low.  

So if there's no location information, and moving the subs around by feet all over the room never alters any bass detail, how can it possibly affect (nonexistent) bass detail if a spring lets a sub move a millimeter? 

Rhetorical question. It can't.
Hi guys, For those that experienced  loss of bass using these springs, did clarity and detail correspondingly increase, and visa versa.

Assuming you experimented, what component  that was "springed" most benefited the clarity of your system? Thanks.
MC, You wrote, "Audio is full of complex concepts and this is a big one: human beings DO NOT hear all frequencies the same."  Yes, that's right; it's called the "Fletcher-Munson Curve", and you didn't invent it.  It's why once upon a time a conventional receiver or integrated amplifier had a "Loudness" contour knob on its front panel.

Then you wrote, "So if there's no location information, and moving the subs around by feet all over the room never alters any bass detail, how can it possibly affect (nonexistent) bass detail if a spring lets a sub move a millimeter? Rhetorical question. It can't."
Here you are conflating location information with distortion.  If the sub moves in response to a low frequency audio signal, that means that some of the energy in the signal was lost in doing the work necessary to move the speaker.  This could cause an aberrant presentation of the musical signal at certain frequencies, due to loss of energy at certain frequencies.  That phenomenon is a form of distortion. So, in my opinion, it is best to anchor a subwoofer as firmly as possible in the listening environment.  You can argue the other side of that question, but not using the rationale presented in your last post.  You'll have to do better.  I don't disagree with your bit about bass location.  But I will turn your conclusion around; if the springs do nothing to affect bass detail or a sense of bass location, then why use springs at all?
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They are obviously selling something but bring up some interesting observations.

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Your tympanic membrane moves immediately in conjunction with the pressure front created by whatever frequency of sound you care to talk about including bass. This movement occurs immediately and does not wait for a full wavelength to pass. But, it does take a period of time before the sound is registered and interpreted by the cerebral cortex. This probably occurs at the same time for all frequencies. Now, in deep bass it becomes not only hearing but feeling that are involve in assessing the sound. At some point it becomes only feeling if the volume is loud enough to register at all. 
The job of the enclosure is to isolate the woofer's rear from it's front waveforms so they do not cancel and to hold the woofer rigidly in space. Any movement of the woofer distorts the waveform. If the enclosure is sufficiently heavy and stiff it does not matter what it rests on. Unfortunately, that is a very difficult goal to reach so it is always best to anchor the subwoofer to a large immovable object like your house. 
The way I use my subwoofers is significantly different than say millercarbon. I cross over to them much higher at 125 Hz. This is up into the range that can be located. So my subs have to be arranged around the satellites in a symmetrical pattern to maintain a proper image. 
I also have to duplicate the radiation pattern of a line source so that the subs can keep up with the satellites as distance away from the speakers increases. It is certainly true that a bass instrument's higher frequencies and harmonics locate the instrument. The fundamental does not even have to be there. What goes AWOL is the sensation. I can make an EQ preset that chops everything under 40 Hz. Switching back and forth between the normal curve and the 40 Hz chop will not change what you here so much but all the sensation you get being at a live concert will disappear, gone. Those frequencies under 40 Hz are what makes music breath. Unfortunately, it is so easy to corrupt that end of the spectrum with room problems, phase inconsistencies, poor enclosure design and execution, and under powered amplifiers.  But, when you get it right it is a beautiful thing.