To the OP, wire your home with this gauge wire. Watch lights flicker. Figure out why. I will give an intelligent answer to an intelligent question. Like phase coherence. But questions that are answered, in this case, without even getting past resistance, without even considering capacitance or inductance don't even qualify for high school science. BTW, when I was young and broke, I used telephone wiring to connect some candy-ass speakers in a bedroom. It worked fine. Low powered amp, small speakers - and they made background music nicely. Why are you asking this question here? Do the math. It isn't hard.
Can I use 24 gauge speaker cable?
I’ve been trying to google this but I only get vague answers.
I want to know if I can use 24 gauge cable as speaker cable. And if not: why not?
Usual answers are “no, you should use xx gauge”, but I’m looking for why is that? Will the speakers of the amp go off in flames if the resistance is too high? I don’t even get that because the resistance isn’t even that much of a difference between speaker cable sizes, compared to the speakers resistance.
I’m talking about ca 16ft / 5m distance between amp and speaker. By the way should that measure 16 ft or double (32ft because one cable is plus and the other minus)?
I want to know if I can use 24 gauge cable as speaker cable. And if not: why not?
Usual answers are “no, you should use xx gauge”, but I’m looking for why is that? Will the speakers of the amp go off in flames if the resistance is too high? I don’t even get that because the resistance isn’t even that much of a difference between speaker cable sizes, compared to the speakers resistance.
I’m talking about ca 16ft / 5m distance between amp and speaker. By the way should that measure 16 ft or double (32ft because one cable is plus and the other minus)?
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Quote: "I even think I’m the last one to laugh, as there are seriously people who believe their system will sound like a Grand Opera House because they spent literally tens of thousands of dollars on a couple of feet of cable, putting them on tiny wooden elevations costing just as much... " Laugh and you laugh alone. While it’s true that you don’t have to spend mega-bucks to get great sound, you do have to spend an appreciable amount of money, usually more money than the majority of non-audiophools are comfortable with paying. So go ahead and get that 24-gauge wire and tell us how it sounds. |
I have used phone wire as a temporary solution (way better than silence). 30W amp/preamp low to medium volume, so I got by. Also I probably wasn't missing much from the entry level system at the time (1986) I have gone to the bigger wire over ascetics stage, just personal choice, 12AWG, running 200 wpc. I am interested in doing an A/B by doubling the wires to half inductance and see how it sounds. Same would apply to any size wires. Would be an interesting test at 24AWG also. I am running only 6 feet of wire so not sure what gains I would get. Efficient speakers will help. With 96db speakers, 3 watts may be all you need depending on your preferred listening volume and distance from the speakers. +1 for 10 watts estimated for 24AWG wire by Cakyol. This provides some margin I am comfortable with for normal use. If you want to use Erik's 0.577 amp number (good margin) then I=SQRT(P/R)=SQRT(2.5 watt/8 ohm) = 0.56 amps, so 2.5 watts is no problem. If you are going to run the wire under the rug, over the heat register, or you may have to prove safe design in court even if someone repeatedly set furniture on the wires, then use this number (Seriously, more margin for non standard applications). Per AWG chart, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_wire_gauge 2.1 amps max for 60C rated insulation. 3.5 amps max for 75C rated insulation. The wire will not melt at this point but any higher temperature, and accelerated heat aging will occur. Reducing life and possibly shorting out eventually. 30+ watts and the risk is higher for early wire insulation failure. I=SQRT(P/R)=SQRT(30 watt/6 ohm)= 2.24 amps, this is over the rating for 60C wire, this is okay for 75C wire by spec. but not enough margin for me and I don't like my wires hot to the touch. Of course even higher wattage/amperage can result in faster failure by softening or melting the wires. 22AWG phone wire is also available. Some of the chains stores now offer copper clad aluminum speaker wire, so know what you are getting if you go that route. You will need thicker wire to equal resistance of pure copper 99%+. Per vassils link, I think the paragraph refers to the 18 AWG wire (0.5M). The 24 AWG is only suggested for digital interconnects. Some interesting articles linked by others. |
As is normal here you get a range of answers from zero to infinity, especially on this topic. My #1 rule is always “Follow your ears”, even to the extent of having regular hearing tests. I mean if your hearing is way off, it is not worth throwing money at. I hear differences between speaker wires an opt for “the low end of the hi end” and am generally quite satisfied. New old stock can be a tremendous value. The older I get, the less it matters in terms hearing loss with age. |
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