Dear @lohanimal : "
I have a Townshend Rock Elite with a Helius Omega. Sounds very good without the trough - sounds significantly better with the trough. For the uninitiated Townshend Rock turntables use a silicone damping trough at the headshell end. I have used other arms too and the step change is consistent regardless of arm
Would you have a car with spring suspension alone, or damping too?. "
Your great tonearm comes in the OP due that's the " extreme " on overall damping thread subject.
Yes, damping benefits almost all tonearms/cartridges combinations and I said " almost " because I don't listened yet all tonearms down there.
" I agree that cartridges do have some in-built damping but it is actually quite crude (it's a piece of rubber). The problem with a rubber spring is the opposite and equal reaction back - ie it's like puncing a ball against a wall. That's why car suspension uses damping whether through air or oil leaving the spring to do its part.
placing the damping at the front where the cartridge is creates a significant mechanical advantage and prevents spurious resonances going down the arm in the first place. "
Quite correct and precise and that " spurious resonances going down the arm in the first place " is what happens with the Townshend but with a different tonearm the silicon fluid and the tape around the tonearm wand makes a really good job about.
The @big_greg first hand experiences with his Technics 1200 is evidence that confirms with out doubt your posts.
" The CST/Wt was partially arrived at to stop it dripping - he says a thinner oil works and to try and use the thinnest weight that carries out the resonance control whilst also allowing the treble transients to shine through. I hasten to add that I personally don't think that the silicone weight commonly used robs treble energy - it simply cleans up splash. "
Exactly: " it simply cleans up splash. " ! .
Btw, great contribution for the thread and for all of us and any audiophile.
Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.
Would you have a car with spring suspension alone, or damping too?. "
Your great tonearm comes in the OP due that's the " extreme " on overall damping thread subject.
Yes, damping benefits almost all tonearms/cartridges combinations and I said " almost " because I don't listened yet all tonearms down there.
" I agree that cartridges do have some in-built damping but it is actually quite crude (it's a piece of rubber). The problem with a rubber spring is the opposite and equal reaction back - ie it's like puncing a ball against a wall. That's why car suspension uses damping whether through air or oil leaving the spring to do its part.
placing the damping at the front where the cartridge is creates a significant mechanical advantage and prevents spurious resonances going down the arm in the first place. "
Quite correct and precise and that " spurious resonances going down the arm in the first place " is what happens with the Townshend but with a different tonearm the silicon fluid and the tape around the tonearm wand makes a really good job about.
The @big_greg first hand experiences with his Technics 1200 is evidence that confirms with out doubt your posts.
" The CST/Wt was partially arrived at to stop it dripping - he says a thinner oil works and to try and use the thinnest weight that carries out the resonance control whilst also allowing the treble transients to shine through. I hasten to add that I personally don't think that the silicone weight commonly used robs treble energy - it simply cleans up splash. "
Exactly: " it simply cleans up splash. " ! .
Btw, great contribution for the thread and for all of us and any audiophile.
Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.