Thiel Owners


Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
jafant
Thanks guys. It looks like I need a bigger amp if I want the 3.6. How much difference sound quality between the 3.5 and 3.6?
@jafant what interconnects do you recommend I have laspada between my pre and my power amp on the thiel system. When I get my arcam I’ll probably keep that systems cables all laspada.  But I am looking to upgrade the cables on my imf system all around. Right now between the pre and amp on that system is an older mit interconnect cable that came with the mh750 speaker cables so I’ll probably be looking in the 300-600 range for a pair of interconnects. 
Hifi 28 I owned the 3.5s and moved on to the 3.6s in my opinion the 3.6s are better. They are both very good speakers but the 3.5 drivers are almost nonexistent as the 3.6s rob gillium can rebuild all the drivers. For that reason alone I would buy the 3.6s over the 3.5s.I had the 3.6s for 25 yrs trouble free and moved on to the cs 7s last yr. hope this helps David 
@hifi28, fitter468’s point about drivers are spot on. But, whether the 3.5’s or the 3.6’s are better comes down to individual preferences. I think if you read through this thread, you’ll find preferences pretty evenly divided for either one.
From a historical perspective the 3.5 > 3.6 transition is a watershed. The 3.5 has the more "correct" sealed box bass response. The model 2 was invented to implement the less expensive reflex bass. That introduces phase / time lag at the bottom of the spectrum, but the model 2’s reduced budget admitted that trade-off. Our pipe-dream vision of the model 3 was to develop a subwoofer that matched the second order sealed roll-off model three bass and which, by careful placement, can be made time correct and phase benign.

Around 1990 we had entered a subwoofer development project with Vifa creating a very early class D implementation. That should have become the bass foundation for a breakthrough 3.6. Another intriguing option was a transmission line bass, but at that time adequate modeling was not extant, and TL bass included tons of guess-work, trial and error and mixed results. An improved equalizer option was also floated as an intermediate step between acoustic and subwoofered bass. Through a few years of significant grief - that subwoofer didn’t materialize - it took years too long to develop. The market demanded a new model 3 offering, especially in Kathy’s opinion. Without putting too sharp a point on it, the 3.6 with its reflex bass became the result. Its bass is quite well executed, some say about as good as the form gets. But, it’s still a reflex bass system with its limitations and trade-offs.

I’m somewhat surprised that Jim continued with the reflex bass in his subsequent higher-end products rather than building on the seminal work of the sealed CS5, as well as developing transmission line and/or including subwoofer augmentation. A one-man development team can only take on so many challenges.

I second what's been said above. The 3.6 is the more mature and accurate product, plus it can be maintained with available rebuilt drivers.