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The NAD M33 will cancel your complaints about Class D

There are many reasons to like one type of sound over another. Even among what are considered very good amplifiers there’s a broad range of tastes and preferences among audiophiles. Just ask a SET aficionado!

However, no class is more maligned, inappropriately, than Class D. To hear some regulars tell it, Class D sound will thin your blood, make your teeth fall out and ruin your enjoyment of just about everything because it sounds so (fill in a lot of tropes from the 1980’s here).

I’ve been listening to NAD’s prior collaboration with Bruno Putzy and I can tell with some confidence that none of those tired old tropes apply. For reasons related much more to tonal balance than anything else, I’m sticking with Class A/B in my main system, but with the introduction of the next gen Anthem AVR receivers and the NAD M33 I may be making the switch back to class D.

You don’t have to like the M33 or the Anthem’s but can we at least agree that it’s time to retire the old guard of reasons not to buy Class D? Lets lay those poor phantoms to rest.
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dougeyjones
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This place is insufferable sometimes. 

OP acts like it’s some miracle that NAD has created a good Class D product when really they’ve just licensed a Bruno Putzey PuriFi topology and done a mediocre job implementing it. 

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/nad-m33-streaming-amplifier-review.17302/

I spend less time here every week.
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jaulbrich
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Lots of the usual audiophile blowviating above, especially "teo"😆  Ok, I have a new system that includes the following:  Moon 820S Ext. PS, Moon 740P PreAmp, Moon 680D dac, Audioquest 5000 PC, B&W802D, pair of REL 820S.  I am using a pair of NAD M22 v.2 in bridge mono mode (900W, $3200.00ea).  I demo'd several other of the standard highend power amps at a local store with same speakers and components.  Honestly, I was hoping to hear such a difference that I would be "forced" to spend $20-$40K to get the "true" hi-end sound.  I am sure if I dropped the $60K a piece for the Moon 888 mono blocks, it would sound better...after all, it would have to sound better, right?  No doubt it would, but $120K better?  Here is my offer for any of my fellow audiophiles in the Denver/Boulder area: contact me and bring you amp(s) over and let's listen.  I am open minded and could be convinced otherwise, but other than that this  is a pointless discussion based on "positions."
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cowan217
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I tend to agree; I had a Classe Sigma integrated amp that was class D and it sounded great, also had an NAD Master series integrated before that, it was equally good. I use a Pass 250.8 on my main system running Harbeth HLS5 super Plus in a dedicated 13x22 listening room. The amp is wonderful- but- can heat the room up to 72-74 degrees in the summer. I have no direct ventilation in the room to avoid additional noise. Probably not the best decision in retrospect. I'm considering a good Class D amp for the summer months just to avoid the heat from the Pass !
erik_squires OP
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OP acts like it’s some miracle that NAD has created a good Class D product


It would be really hard to come to this conclusion if you knew anything about the history of my many pro Class D threads, or just my opening statement.

I don't think it's a miracle, I think it's a broadly well reviewed product that doesn't have the failings Class D is still accused of after all these years.

really they’ve just licensed a Bruno Putzey PuriFi topology and done a mediocre job implementing it.


Oh, now there's a man with an axe to grind. Please explain why this is a mediocre example of  BP Class D amplifier? Who in your mind has done better?

Please remember, I'm not saying the M33 is a great amplifier, just that it shows us that typical anti-Class D prejudice (pre-judging) no longer hold true.
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I detect no bloviating, rambling or commonness about teo_audio
I just sense intelligence and enlightenment to the maximo
If deep thoughts happen to be your bailiwick
Just find one of his posts and give it a click
Sure, if you're a bit dense, his posts may initially go over your head
Considering your disabilities, perhaps they just need to be slowly reread
I consider Deep Thoughts by teo_audio to be a real treat
Wittiness, cleverness and intellectual stimulation that can't be beat.
Please be respectful to my man teo or you'll force me to be bold
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