Looking for more detail in a speaker

Dill 1
Bring your listening position to 10' from the speakers. Put your speakers 10' apart (measured at the center of the tweeter). Position yourself 10' from an imaginary plane between the tweeters, dead center. Angle both speakers so you can see just a sliver of the inside wall of each speaker at your listening position. Also, adjust your listening position so your ear (height from the the floor) is as close as the tweeter height is from the floor. Do not use a cloth covered , high back chair for listening. I would also suggest shorter, higher quality speaker cables, but only after you have done all of the above.

I wondered about being 17 or 20 feet from the speakers and would start with the basic stuff like dill1 suggests; and then incremental adjustments to try to improve the sound. 

Also maybe the odd room shape is disrupting the treble, and some sort of room treatments are necessary.

If it is the room, spending for new speakers may be a way to waste your money

Or maybe you just want new speakers?

FWIW

Dsper.

To the first post. I have a pair of speakers that takes the song 'lost cause' by beck and turns it into a magical mystery tour. the background, idk woodwinds? flute? overlayed in the mix on one specific pair of speakers sound distinct and amazing, like at the end of the song when beck blows into the mic, that sound continues through the entire song, but I only have one pair of affordable speakers that show it? I'v bought several speakers at multiple times the price and none are able to recreate the layering, contrast, and depth on that specific song. I've decided there's a treble peak in the affordable speakers tailor made for that one song or there's other fq's those speakers aren't reproducing that allow those delicate notes to shine so well. Either way my more recent experience shows me it's a speaker coloration making that song pop and B&W speakers also have tailored output.

Just took delivery of my B&W 802D3 speakers!! So excited 😆 

Since my last post been doing a little tweaking with gear and such. Finally got around to rerouting my speaker wires which saved me 13’ with each run. In the process I learned one of the speaker wire arrows was pointing the wrong direction, lol. I think those changes made some Audible difference. The greatest benefit was hiding a bunch of unsightly speaker wire. I’m still about 18’ from the speakers and will have to live with that till I get new furniture for my room so I can move my listening chair up to about 10’. I can tell a slight difference in sound staging standing closer to the speakers so I think once I get them dialed in to a new listening position they will sound even better. Of course shortening the speaker wire run even more is important and still thinking how I can make that happen. 

There are some caveats to all this in that I introduced some new gear to my system. I picked up a Rowland 112 amp, an Audible Illusions L3A tube preamp and a pair of B&W 803 D2’s. I’ve been switching out my McIntosh 152 amp with the Rowland and my C48 preamp with Audible Illusions. The B&W’s are not as easy to move as the GE’s so they’ve stayed in the mix with the various amp and preamp combinations. I did a test with the Sympathy 4 Devil song that got me started on this exploration. The guiro percussion at the beginning was more prominent with the 803 D2’s than the GE’s but not like with the 805 D3’s I heard. So, the room, amp, interconnects, setup, etc. where I originally heard Sympathy obviously were a major factor. 
Another thing I noticed is that none of the speakers or equipment I’ve been trying absolutely blows each other away. I can hear differences but really nothing that says I can’t live without this or that component. At this point, I feel the GE’s and B&W’s are pretty close. I do think the B&W’s have a higher ceiling for audio potential with better placement, speaker wire and other tweaks to my system. I also like the musicality of the AI preamp but like the functionally of the C48. Everything is there with the C48 and does a very good job without having to add a DAC or phono stage. I thought I definitely liked the Rowland better but after putting the McIntosh back in, feels like an old friend. Obviously, I still haven’t drawn any firm conclusion other than attention to detail will create the detail one is seeking,  whatever that may be. 

I’ve owned a ton of gear and countless speakers of all designs.  The B&W Diamonds are my favorites because they deliver such inner detail and harmonic texture that it puts me in the venue!  Having extra gear around is fun so you can mix it up a bit if you get bored.