Do chinese tube preamp/amp clones interest you?


Hi all,

looks like there a quite a few clones of almost iconic gear available, e.g. this is an example
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001822040138.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.4f8c6644HLjQ8o&a...

Have you ever wondered how they sound, are tempted to try them out, maybe even get it as a kit?

Or better even, got them and can report back?

Inquiring minds would like to know,

cheers
brxl
brxl
No, whenever possible, I avoid purchasing anything from China. They are responsible for the deaths of over 1.2 million people worldwide, and have not so little as apologized. I don’t feel that way towards other countries that manufacture and export. I realize that this is an audio enthusiast forum, and apologize for using it as a political retort.

All the best,

To all having owned a Audiostore ,and on average 25% or less 
actually goes into the build,speakers or electronics,Thst being said 
especially after what China did and withheld information for.          6 weeks before informing the world,,and buying up all Ppe,and medically related products ,to resell after announcing China is a Cancer ,nothing more to be said and use cheap parts,inside and low grade lead solder , there are a few foreign controlled pieces that are ok. Taiwan, and Hong Kong ,which like U.SA build much high quality on average, China at this time No Thankyou 
and resale Gorget it much worse no more then even keep that in mind plenty of other quality products out there Rogue audio-USA
Schiit Audio USA good quality vacuum tube at a decent price 
many other options these are just a few examples.🎻🇺🇸
Mentioned above a very old China ploy they list say 5 brand name parts 
a few old carbon resistors ,$20 alps volume pot a select few name brand capacitors the rest China special brand. Solder,wire, tube sockets switches all junk Period I know from past mistakes years ago ,and still holds true today primaluna  for that kind of money cheap sheet metal chassis 
Ayon much more advanced  microprocessor tube circuit , machined thick anodized aluminum non resonate chassis ,Worlld class Lundahl transformers and chokes , all rca machined gold copper ,and many more things all within $500
and made in Austria . Knowing parts quality well, a Torroidal transformer much better suited in a SS device not Vacuum tube ,all World class tube products never use Torroidal transformers which are the heart of the amp,preamp.Lundahl,Everyone knows .

The cheap shitttttt is exactly that, you get what you pay for, here or China.

I tried something inexpensive sold on amazon, to use in my shop, really just to find out, wondering: Their low labor cost, their lack of mark-up, volume purchasing, perhaps you can get .... for not too much money. POS, returned it, ok I learned something.

However, 'made in china' can be excellent. 

I read reviews, took a chance, bought a used Cayin A88T, eBay, returns accepted, original owner. 

There has to be other high quality stuff I don't know about. Proper research, I would not fear 'Made in China'.

Says 'Designed in Germany, Made in China'. Received, immediately took bottom cover off, extremely impressive layout, hand point to point construction, high quality parts. I've seen many innards of vintage Fisher's, McIntosh, Sherwoods, Tandbergs. IMO this unit's quality meets and/or exceeds them. Plenty of ventilation space.

this is mark 1, only one that has 16 ohm taps. later models have external bias, mine is inside.

https://6moons.com/audioreviews/cayin/a88t.html

thread here popped up

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/cayin-a88t-my-favorite-amp-out-of-numerous-fyi

this quick search, I now see they have been around for 20 years, who knew?

https://www.ultimateaudio.gr/en/proionta/cayin/integrated-tube-amplifiers/cayin-a-88t-mk2-20th-anniv...