As Advised, Starting With Speakers First.


After licking my wounds and on the mend financially, I’m getting poised to rebuild. My wife and I are going to be doing a little touring around WA & OR last week of December and wondered what any of you Pacific Northwester’s thoughts were (yes you too Chuck being a local, but not thinking Tektons just yet) are on some of the local dealers around the area? There’s Tune Hi Fi, Hawthorne Stereo, Definitive Audio, Kitsap Audio and Gig Harbor Audio that all offer some interesting products. Also Reference Media in Bellingham. Any others, pros & cons, general advice, are all welcomed!

These establishments will not even graze all the speaker options out there, so if you have any other speaker recommendations, please let ’em fly. I know, there’s are a ton of threads on speakers, and I am trying to go and hear what I can with my own ears, but I would like to hear of peoples experiences where they order factory direct, which is fairly common these days, sight unseen/unheard and if they are getting/hearing what they want when purchasing blind. Or are you all spending a lot on return shipping?

The listening room at the new digs (ya, even sold the house too) measures 24’ x 15’ with a slightly vaulted ceiling and an L shaped opening to a small kitchen about halfway down. The two end walls that are 15’ wide both have doorways in them so speakers would be in the way. Probably best to have them on one of the long walls. One wall is solid for the first 2 feet then widows 5’ up from there the total length of the wall. The other side is solid, but my back would be to the view whilst listening. All hard surfaces.

Listen to just about every genre of music except Country & opera. Floor standers would be nice bypassing subs, but I’m open (maybe not the wife though, it’s a small house!) Had Martin Logan Spires in the past. Fun to listen to in the sweet spot but got fatiguing during long listening sessions and very unforgiving to poorer recordings. You get what you play.

Budget, well, I sold my previous entire $20K system for about half that so maybe in around $10-12K to replace amp, Dac, source and speakers inclusive.

Thanks
high-amp
I can confidently recommend Echo Audio in Portland and Hawthorne in Seattle as two of the most honest, forthright and stand-behind retailers of new and used gear.Gig Harbor Audio, WA, not so much, but it takes two to have a problem.Kurt Doslu at Echo is absolutely outstanding.
I'm kind of getting bummed out a bit with the new house thing after watching this video:

Is HiFi For Rich People because I can't afford anything ! - YouTube

At 3:43 the commentator states " You shouldn't even consider buying Hi-Fi at all if you don't have the room or acoustic treatments"

Well the room at the new place room sucks and I'm not sure how to treat it acoustically with large widows that open to a great view running the full length of one side of the room.

This was a trade off, a big house with a dedicated music room or a smaller place (960 sq. ft.) with a view.  The wife doesn't even want curtains!

Is active/DSP the only alterative to rubberizing the room? I don't thing GIK panels all over the place is an option either.

I really want my tunes and eat ribs too. What is a guy to do...UGH!

Thanks
Thanks  stebut

I have my appointment with Hawthorne on Saturday, December 26th at 1 PM. I have an email out to Echo but unfortunately I will be passing through Portland on his day off. I did ask if he would see my appointment though. Standing by...

big_greg - from Echo: 

Thanks for reaching out and I certainly wish we could accommodate you, but unfortunately we're only open for pickup and drop off - no in-store auditions or shopping - for the foreseeable future. I bet I know who Big Greg is, but give him our thanks for the recommendation.
Best regards,
Jake

I have a whole box of OC703 sitting in my shop making it real easy to show just how effective and simple this stuff is to work with. I also have things like Synergistic Research HFT that are almost invisible yet incredibly effective. There’s a YouTube video you can watch where they treat an entire room that starts off all bare walls sounding terrible and the improvement from HFT is so great you can hear it on the video even from a laptop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AX9W_vVAEo  

I’ve also now got several Schumann generators which is another one that’s very small yet makes a huge difference.

That’s just the room treatment type stuff. There’s another half a dozen or so things going on all of which add together. What they all have in common, not many have actual ears-on experience to appreciate just how good they are, just how much they can elevate a system. Every single one of them has an impact that is easy to hear and impressive. Otherwise I don’t bother. Take even just one of them out you will hear the sound collapse. Take them all away it will be just another blah stereo. Okay still better than most but no longer totally freaking amazing. Which it is. Come and listen. You will see.

I have that Christmas weekend off by the way, so good time to come.