Is this how a Subwoofer Crossover is supposed to work?


I bought two Starke SW12 subwoofers that I installed.  So far I'm not particularly happy with them.  They are way too loud even with the volume set almost to off.  More importantly, I'm having trouble integrating them into my system and I'm wondering if that is because their crossover setting is really functioning as I understand a crossover should. Attached please find measurements from Room Equalization Wizard with SPL graphs of the two subs (no speakers) taken at my listening position with the crossover set at 50 Hz, 90 Hz, and 130 Hz. Ignore the peaks and dips which I assume are due to room nodes.  All of those settings appear to actually have the same crossover point of 50 Hz. All that changes is the slope of the rolloff in sound levels. This isn't how I thought a properly designed crossover was supposed to work.  I thought the frequency the levels would start to roll off would change, i.e. flat to 50 hz then a sharp drop, flat to 90 hz then a sharp drop, etc. etc..  But Starke says this is how a subwoofer crossover is supposed to work.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8x4cr32pagwg48i/Two%20Subs%20Different%20Crossover%20Points%20No%20Speaker...
Any experts on here with an opinion about this?  Is it possible to buy an inexpensive active crossover that I could use in place of what is built into these subs?
pinwa
Post removed 
It is NOT setting the roll off.. It is setting the POINT of the roll off.
@ 12 db and 50hz, there is STILL a lot of BASS (ability) in that room.

Set all tone controls FLAT, if you have them. (Preamp)

Turn one sub off. Turn ALL the knobs CCW. Use only (SUB) one at a time.

Split the XLR or the RCAs. Don’t mix the two for now..

If you do, swap the sub XLRs for the RCAs on the mains, that alone could be a problem.. Higher gain...for the subs less gain for the mains.

REVERSE it.. or just use one or the other XLR or RCAs, for now..

0 phase
50 hz XO
0 gain..

The roll off is gonna be 12-24 db, probably 12. 12 db per Oct..

Turn it on AND...

Add in the GAIN only to about the 11 or 12:00 position..

No phase shift...YET... No higher than 50hz on the cross over, YET.

Flip on the second Sub unit. Same thing. ALL 0, and 50 hz on the XO.
Now turn up the gain to the 10-11:00 position.. Smile....

Now better location, placement and very tiny adjustments... The further apart the speakers are, the more likely they will need a "Phase" adjustment, BECAUSE of the Moabs...

AND or

Limit the Moabs to START at 40-60 hz. If you can do that, I know I would be happy. Then and ONLY then would I measure for placement, and placement ONLY... that will smooth the hot spots.
A quick way to limit the Moabs is an inline (cuts below 40-60 hz) simple pro audio way of doing a sound check adjustment. (tip from my little brother) I don’t use inline filters... Option, though..

Setting up corner to corner is a great option too.. A lot less room treatment is needed... Like ZERO....

Regards
erik_squires I can remeasure with one sub and set the crossover to its 200 Hz high point but I’m not sure the results will show much difference but you can never tell.


Depending on the delay and the frequency, you can cause destructive interference. For sure, if you can’t integrate 1 sub, you can’t do 2.

Measuring with one sub with the crossover wide open tells you what your sub is like alone. It’s an important baseline. For instance, if the FR looks like you posted, that’s pretty bad, and you are definitely going to have to do a lot of EQ. On the other hand, if it smooths out, and looks nice and flat-ish to 150Hz or so, you know you have a good starting point.

Integrate your closest sub, so you know what is possible, then blend in your second so your result is as good, if not better than your first sub.

If your overall FR with 1 sub still looks that bad, then you have other issues, and will need serious EQ. Putting in both subs and attempting to hammer the EQ into place though is madness. :)

Trust me. :) 
hes all wrong dont listen to erik tufnel. subs should be custom tuned BY EAR. Same with the SNR1s. He tuned em by measurements and cant figure out why they sound so bad!