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Move From AVR to Integrated?

I know this topic gets thrown around a lot, but I recently bought a pair of Ascend Acoustic Sierra 1s I love and a Hsu VTF2 MK5 subwoofer. Right now, I'm using a Denon AVR-X2600H to power them. 

I hear a lot of chatter that I'm not getting the most out of my speakers using the AVR. The drawback is my room is not treated, and I like having the bass management. 

It seems difficult to find an integrated with 100wpc+, ability to stream things like Tidal, that also has ability to at least EQ the low bass, and have the ability to connect to digital sources like a PS4/5. I do like the idea of a better built power source, and I will never go past 2.1 or 2.2. Most of what I do is music and TV. 

Any suggestions? Ideally I'd like to stay under 1200. 
coolhandduke
coolhandduke OP
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Here are the 2 options I'm seeing right now based on 2 different approaches: 

  1. Outlaw Audio 2160 (999) with something like Dayton streamer (maybe 60ish). Upsides are components are designed to work together and offer bass management. Downside is needing to replace entire unit to upgrade. 
  2. Separates - something like Topping E30 DAC (130), Dayton streamer, preamp (maybe buy used on this/something around 300-400), power amp (dual mono from Outlaw 700). Downside is no bass management. Benefit is ability to upgrade individual components
So that's where I'm at for the moment. 
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bkeske
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Audio Advisor has the Parasound NewClassic 200 integrated for $899 right now. 
Although the Outlaw looks interesting, I would trust overall sound quality to Parasound. But that’s just me. The NewClassic would basically do everything the Outlaw does without WiFi. But, if you get that inexpensive Dayton streamer, that would take care of that.

I assume you will hook up your TV via optical?
coolhandduke OP
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@bkeske Looks like the 899 is for the pre one not the integrated unless I'm not finding it. I do not know enough about amplifier class, but Outlaw is AB and Parasound is D. I'm sure it's a whole other discussion about the pros and cons of each. Yes, either optical or coaxial. Since I only use my PS4 right now, I can feed optical directly into DAC or preamp. 
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bkeske
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https://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=1PAC200INT&trk_msg=AFCNRKDE7ATKFAQ7DFECLVCINS&a...

It’s a demo/open box price.

Yes, I agree, I prefer A/B (My Belles is A/B), but would also trust Parasound with class D sound.

The class alone does not guarantee quality of sound.

I just don’t know enough about Outlaw, but for the price, with all its ‘goodies’, you might be not much better than your AVR at that price point. But, personally, don’t know that. It would be a concern though.
213runnin
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Coolhandduke, I'd say you'll be a winner either way.  By the way, Outlaw Audio was founded by Peter Tribeman about 20 years ago, and he's the driving force behind it today.  

He was with Nad when they released the ground breaking 3020 in 1978.  Wiki thinks its one of the most important components in the history of audio because it's price was so low and it's performance was so high.

Outlaw Audio was one of the first audio companies to do the internet direct business model.  
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