djones51: I don't think that "insert" has to be literal! There is a myriad of pins on those modules that likely allow for other configs. Did you read any of the interviews provided or any others out there? I don't have a dog in this hunt, I'm just asking if anyone has any experience in comparing Rogue's basic tube buffered input style to their TubeD designs. As I've said, I live in an audio desert and shipping amps around gets kind of expensive quickly.
From Dagogo - MO: What is really exciting to me is that these amplifiers are much more than just a tube circuit in front of a class D circuit. We use only the modulator and mosfet output stage, and bypass all of the other circuitry on the amplifier modules we are using. We actually combine the tube and buffer stages with the output section, using proprietary circuitry that makes the output section perform like a tube stage rather than solid state. What is quite gratifying is that we have had numerous class D naysayers wind up purchasing them.
From Positive Feedback - So I built what is a basic Hypex-type amplifier, as that was the baseline on one side; and then I guess our top-of-the-line Apollo mono-blocks were the design goal on the other side. I never started off to make a pure digital circuit; I just built one without the tubes in it—though I knew that wasn't what I ultimately wanted. But I wanted that as base line: like, okay, here's what the Hypex Modules sound like used as they were designed to be used, to build the same kind of digital amps that a half dozen other companies out there are building with the Hypex Modules, the big difference being that we only deploy the switching MOS-FETs on the output section of the modules and otherwise we bypass everything on the modules that Hypex supply that everyone else uses—we are not using the Hypex Modules' driver stages or their input stages.
Seems pretty evident to me that unless a respected and accomplished guy like M O'Brien is really being evasive, exaggerating or such, there is a decidedly different implementation of the tube portion and use of the Hypex modules, in those amps.
Lastly, I really don't care about the details and as it's been stated, likely correctly numerous times in this thread, it's all about the implementation details. This would seem to be a different implementation. Just asking about experiences of any audible differences within the lineup, due to this implementation.
From Dagogo - MO: What is really exciting to me is that these amplifiers are much more than just a tube circuit in front of a class D circuit. We use only the modulator and mosfet output stage, and bypass all of the other circuitry on the amplifier modules we are using. We actually combine the tube and buffer stages with the output section, using proprietary circuitry that makes the output section perform like a tube stage rather than solid state. What is quite gratifying is that we have had numerous class D naysayers wind up purchasing them.
From Positive Feedback - So I built what is a basic Hypex-type amplifier, as that was the baseline on one side; and then I guess our top-of-the-line Apollo mono-blocks were the design goal on the other side. I never started off to make a pure digital circuit; I just built one without the tubes in it—though I knew that wasn't what I ultimately wanted. But I wanted that as base line: like, okay, here's what the Hypex Modules sound like used as they were designed to be used, to build the same kind of digital amps that a half dozen other companies out there are building with the Hypex Modules, the big difference being that we only deploy the switching MOS-FETs on the output section of the modules and otherwise we bypass everything on the modules that Hypex supply that everyone else uses—we are not using the Hypex Modules' driver stages or their input stages.
Seems pretty evident to me that unless a respected and accomplished guy like M O'Brien is really being evasive, exaggerating or such, there is a decidedly different implementation of the tube portion and use of the Hypex modules, in those amps.
Lastly, I really don't care about the details and as it's been stated, likely correctly numerous times in this thread, it's all about the implementation details. This would seem to be a different implementation. Just asking about experiences of any audible differences within the lineup, due to this implementation.