Need a sut for Hana ml

Mulveling, Although it's a fine distinction, his phono stage should add 62db of gain, not 60db, with a 1:10 SUT into the  (42db) MM section OR direct into the (62db) MC section, either way. The resulting output would be fed to a linestage before going on to the amplifier and speakers.  So, a lot can depend upon the gain of the linestage, if any, the input sensitivity of the amplifier, and the efficiency of the speakers.  We know nothing about the latter 3 factors.

The OP wrote on 01/02: "It sounds much different at 100 ohms tone wise better , but noisy to much gain, so I think maybe 150 to 200 ohms will do. The Hana sl sounds good at 470 ohms the Hana ml sounds to stringent "
Of course, noise and too much gain ought to sound different, so I am not sure about the problem, but either way, "too much gain" doesn't make me think he needs a SUT wtih a higher turns ratio.  And I don't know why one would conclude that increasing the value of the phono load resistor (as per the quote) would help either problem.  Since his Cary evidently provides a 68K load at the MM inputs, the actual R seen by the cartridge through a 1:10 SUT should be 680 ohms, not 470 ohms.  Anyone could be forgiven for thinking the load would be 470 ohms, since the MM standard is for 47K ohms.

First, I like to thank everyone for their help on the situation ,a friend came over with a sut with 3 different settings I settled on 1:18 at 150 ohms , plus he is in the process making resistors for my 1:10 sut . I think I judge the cartridge to fast, it brand new ,Its starting to settle in , and sounding like some reviews stated , the Hana SLwas very good ,the ML very very good. Once again thanks for your time and thoughts on my situation.

making a decision is a wonderful thing, congrats and enjoy

some many months of listening now in, how does the story turn out ?

Hi, it has about  50 hours on it , it’s the best cart I have , it’s great on vocals, and jazz ,which I mostly listen to ,all the bass lines , rhythm ,  and top end , are all there, and easy to follow, this cart has stand up bass and acoustic guitar texture, with some nice tone on horns, I can tell the difference between a alto and a tenor sax ,it not the best at classical music ,good but not great. There  is a review in a Australian  mag on line of cart, he uses the stylus guard to set it up.should be easy to find google Hana .I  am enjoying it , well worth it asking price. What more can I say.