Why so many angry audiophiles?

Has anyone here clearly and profoundly won a toxic argument whereby the opposing party simply acquiesced, admitted fault and gave thanks for pointing out their complete lack of understanding and pillock-like nature?

Not in my universe.......yours?  Not in the cards.  The self-belief system most humans cling to is akin to “The Borg”.

I enjoy where I live, what I eat, where I travel to, the concerts I attend and Bridger the Wonder lab.  All in a world bereft of social media.  Spin that in a negative way, I dare you. 

Has anyone here clearly and profoundly won a toxic argument whereby the opposing party simply acquiesced, admitted fault and gave thanks for pointing out their complete lack of understanding and pillock-like nature?

Not in my universe.......yours? Not in the cards. The self-belief system most humans cling to is akin to “The Borg”.

I am able to admit my own wrong or errors...Thanks God!

Any honest people can do and wanted to do it...

But the anonymity of these forums make people resembling more to their own dark shadow than to their real self...(C.G.Jung) Then they all act like "Borg" in their  sucking it all strategy....

I myself particularly enjoy the company of mathematicians( dont mix these up with any scientism) and of mystics ( dont mix these up with religious people), in the pursuit of absolute truth they never lied by definition...




«What rubbish noise! Only dogs and trees never lied and my late mother»-Groucho Marx

i would agree with levy03 that the general trend towards angry/rude/nasty discourse is widespread, not just in the audiophile online forum world, but everywhere online and also in more traditional media like tv/cable tv where the ’echo chamber’ effect of outlets promoting themselves and grabbing viewers by making everything more intense and incendiary

couple that with many in society struggling and unhappy with their lives and living conditions, the anger is easy to express, especially in anonymous forums

then on top of that, we have societal leaders, politicians etc etc also breaking norms of decency and classy/intellectually honest discourse, taking advantage of the pent up anger and frustration of many

clear cause and effect here, and unfortunately it is all quite corrosive

@celtic66 ,

"Has anyone here clearly and profoundly won a toxic argument whereby the opposing party simply acquiesced, admitted fault and gave thanks for pointing out their complete lack of understanding and pillock-like nature?"


Me neither.

Although I am sometimes surprised to find, usually many months later, that my opponent might then be espousing quite different statements from those previously.

The reverse also happens. Certain opinions I was ridiculing about the pandemic back in March 2020 don’t seem quite so conspiratorial now.

These often cherished self beliefs are not things we are likely to change in the course of an argument are they? However they can eventually give in to contradictory opinion if given long enough.

This is why propaganda is so effective.


@mahgister,

"But the anonymity of these forums make people resembling more to their own dark shadow than to their real self...(C.G.Jung)"


Or maybe the shadow is their real self?
The one they themselves may not even be aware of?

Don’t long term married partners sometimes tell each other things like ’I know you better than you do!’?

I got your point and i will not enter in technicalities....You are right, save the technicalities in Jungian theory of the Self....

My best wishes to you....