Does it annoy you when companies don't show the internals of electronics ?


I noticed that merrill audio and mcintosh general don't show all the internals of their electronics. A friend of mine actually asked merrill to see pics of the internals of their amps and pres. The remark from merrill... 'people listen to how they sound they don't look at whats inside.'

But why hide it? Are they trying to protect some secrets of their tech? Might as well just show it... if you have dones something truly exceptional people will appreciate that and its going to be that easy to rip off.
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I love the question. I personally want to see what's under the "hood." I'm into audio restoration from a home studio so gear has to be good quality but at a good value. The craze in my other hobby is tempered glass PC cases which shows internals and lights. Window shopping had always been a thing. 

If the manufacturer doesn't show internal photos or enough angles, I check YouTube, Google, forums ect. It's all part of extensive ocd research that takes a lot of hours. It's kinda like marriage, a pretty face shows no credit history. I may not know exactly what I'm looking at but to me well laid out means well thought out. A British audiophile is a YouTube channel I follow because the inside and tech are explained.

Everyone is different but when I get into a hobby, I like to know the nuts and bolts. I would hate to be sold an off the shelf solution at a ridiculous markup.

Like I said, take my opinion with a grain of salt since I'm new to this but I'm not new to audio. I also don't like to have what many others have 😁. Long form descriptive writing I love but a photos talk where words fail. I'm also someone who likes virtual factory tours.

Good topic, I'm done rambling
Lots of failure points ..
I think you are right even if i am interested by this product...

My actual NOS dac is minimalistic.... I chose it for this reason and the price...Correct me if i am wrong but the noise level of a minimalistic design  may help or compensate in some measure for the lack of sophistication.... I am very satisfied by my actual dac anyway.... But the denafrips has glowing reviews indeed...

I am pretty sure that you know more than me about dac by the way..... 😁


Both my amps (one tube, one solid state) are point to point and handmade.  The artisans who made them enjoy showing off the guts.

Both adhere to Einstein's "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler" philosophy.

There are proprietary tricks in both to enable them to sound like nothing you can buy off the shelf, so showing them presents some risk to reverse engineering.

However it would take someone with an intimate knowledge of electrical engineering to figure out exactly what the tricks actually are (and then they would say "well that's not what the books tell me how it should be done").
That me no clue.. 39K - 49K for a SS.. LOL. You’re out of your mind.. plain and simple.. I know EXACTLY what I was looking at..

10k max.. For the pair.. Sorry. to hurt your feelings.. I’d take a Pass any day at what 1/8, 1/5 the price.. GET REAL... like paying 5-20K for cables.. just a friggin’ joke.. Good lord.. I have to look myself in the mirror in the morning.. 49k for an amp..

George had a nice pic of a point to point..Yours looks BIG, clumsy, thick.. Sorry.. it may be complicated, sound wonderful, but ART, visually it is NOT... Reminds me of older VTL.. the same BIG clumsy, gaudy look.

I owned Sumos.. LOL, I’ll bet close in design.. fully differential analog. WAY ahead of its time.. I paid 5K for a hand made Preamp and dual monoblocks.. Gaudy as all heck.. Sounded better than any thing I’d ever heard..
James B swore by them.. Ampzilla.. He modded mine.. 2K.... 7K total.. 15 years ago. 49K for an amp.. NO....

BUT I’m sure it sound good.. Kinda like the homely little lady that won the singing competition, I couldn’t look and listen.. she was to darn ugly to tell the truth..

Just like my cousin Ed.. Kinda thick.. Like your amps.. have I pissed off the Pope yet? LOL.. I’m just kidding, kinda. :-) They are just fine.. but that price, Zowee.. What is it German, it can’t be Italian, they are outward artist, ALL the way? They BOTH love the HUGE price tags, just one is Art, one is German...like a Super Tiger Tank is ART?   LOL I don't think so..

Regards..