Doubley Dumb Dilbert Dudes. Right from the hand of Shakespeare. Only he could have written such a description. Tom
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Not me. I’d love to have the guy over for a listening session. Within the first few notes, he would have a look on his face as though he had just eaten a crap sandwich. No doubt he would try to save face by finding fault with the system, but once the session was over, he would leave and never be able to forget what he had heard. And the best part? He would try to match the sound somehow but would fail miserably, and would be chasing it for the rest of his arrogant little life. :-) By the way Miller, I still laugh every time I think about your late-night phone call when your greeting was ... "Frank ... I had to call someone who understands!" That was truly a classic. Frank. |
If I ever decide to teach again on the side, I will certainly be using this thread as a lesson in perceptual bias and how strong an influence that can be on someone such that they can convince themselves that older and rather average speakers in an absolutely horrible acoustic space, can be the "best sound ever". Those token Hallographs are not going to fix all the acoustics issues that include, but are not limited to: - No front wall reflection control - No first reflection control - The reflections off the glass table - The reflective equipment between the speakers - The lack of symmetry due to the windows on one side, and the wall/records on the other side - The blinds (that will rattle) - The reflective pictures on the wall - The reflective (curio/china cabinet?) in one corner behind the speakers, but not the other I am quite serious when I say that if you sold all that fancy (an expensive) AR gear and bought a half decent receiver and invested 1/10 of the money on the sale of the AR gear and put it into effective acoustics, the overall sound would be better, if not a lot better. Oh it would not be perfect, but you are so far from that now, that anything would be an improvement. And no, I don't need to "hear" this system to know what a mess it will be. 8+ wrongs do not make a right. You could also call this perhaps harsh Mijostyn, but obviously provoked. |
- No front wall reflection controlYou description to bash the experience of oregonpapa is not fair... Try to apply this analysis to the room picture in this article.... This is the room of Floyd Toole, one of the great acoustician in the world... Almost all you just said apply to HIS room pictured here... Wrote to him that he is an idiot in acoustic.... Try that with him.... 😁 https://www.audioholics.com/room-acoustics/room-reflections-human-adaptation I dont say that Toole is right about the positive use of reflections i only say that Acoustic of room is NOT what you think it is.... Then before judging other pick a mirror and think about reflections in another way.... i am sorry to be harsh.....😊 |
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