Best treatment for speaker feet????


Looking for input on best way to handle speaker feet. Couple or decouple? Spikes or rubbber? Granite or no granite?

My situation is, 80lb floorstanding speakers on carpet over plywood decking on second floor.

Opinions appreciated!
jaxwired
I would stay away from granite. IMO, you need to ABSORB, not REFLECT. What I believe happens with granite for example, is the drivers move causing vibrations in the cabinet. Those vibrations travel down the cabinet, through the spikes, into the granite. Then, those vibrations bounce off of the granite, travel up through the spikes and back into the cabinet. I believe you should spike the speakers into a maple block to absorb vibrations. You can buy small spikes/cones and place them under the maple into the floor. Just my theory....
I use a inch and a half thick slab of black granite under my floorstanding speakers. The speakers have cones and feet protectors which I purchased from Adona, sitting on top of the granite. As the speakers weigh 85 pounds each, they are extremely stable. In my case, It made a tremendous difference over just having the sharp cones going through the carpet to the wood floor below. Bass impact is much better now with no smearing and everything seems more defined. I am currently using Odyssey Kismet Reference speakers and also used this combination on a pair of DeVore Gibbon 8 speakers a few years ago. The results were pretty much the same.

I will say that the cost of the granite was a bit pricey, I believe I paid around 100.00 for a pair of 10" by 14" pieces 1 1/2 inches thick, polished on all edges as well as the top.
Devilboy, spikes when placed under speakers, are for mass-coupling the speakers to the floor. Nothing more, nothing less. As I said, you could bolt the speakers to the floor and acheive the same thing, maybe better! The speaker designer engineered his speaker as if it would be operated in a COMPLETELY RESTRAINED state -- the specified performance of the drivers he used depend on it! If you say things sound better than with the spikes going through the carpet and into the floor, I would offer that the granite slab is now probably bridging across the joists underneath, whereas before, without the granite, and unbeknownst to you, the spikes just happened to be landing on one of those weak places in the floor, as I described in my post. I can't tell you how many times I've seen audiophiles fooled by not recognizing this oversight! (Same comment applies to Stereo5's experience.) You guys should go back and review exactly WHERE on your wood floors the spikes were originally landing, relative to the joists underneath -- and then reposition the speakers as I recommended! Then you can tell me about how great the granite works;--)

As for the comments about
vibrations travel down the cabinet, through the spikes, into the granite. Then, those vibrations bounce off of the granite, travel up through the spikes and back into the cabinet.
that is just patently impossible! The whole point of spikes and cones (especially when used under electronic components and turntables, etc.) is to act as MECHANICAL DIODES; meaning vibrations travel out the pointed tip, but CANNOT return back the other way! If the speaker cabinet is vibrating, either the designer meant it to, as in many of the English bookshelf speakers, or, more likely, the enclosure is inadequately braced! The only "vibrations" a speaker should produce are the ones from the drivers when coupling them to the air!

Further, you are certainly doing your speakers no justice by placing them on a "carpet sandwich"! I don't care if the granite slab weighs 500 lbs! It will still allow the speaker to rock. Even a few micrometer 'squish' at the speaker's base, will translate into a few millimeters of sway at the top of the enclosure (you know, where the tweeters are located?) and that is enough to cause doppler distortion in the high frequencies coming from those tweeters.

Go back and examine your floors and determine the location and direction of the joists. Then position your speakers as I indicated and I guarantee, you'll get better performance than you have so far -- that's for sure! All that speculative pseudo-science is the devil! -- only physics will set you free ;--)
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Spikes I suppose.

My large OHM 5 floorstanders use locking castors, which works very well given the pyramidal form but is not practical for many tall rectangular floorstanders probably. Castors also facilitate easy movement and tweaking of placement as needed.
I would also consider contacting Herbie's Audio. They're not extremely expensive and they have a nice wide variety of solutions. If something doesn't work for you, they would take it back in trade for something else to try. Most importantly, if you tell them your situation, they will provide answers backed by a warranty. I'm about to place and order for Big Fat Dots to put my monitor stands on.

Nice to see you on Agon Jaxwired.