Funny how streaming/digital still chases that analog benchmark.

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The standard has, for decades now, been digital. 17-year-olds do not even know what you are talking about."

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That’s hilarious. Kind of proves the point that analog is the standard digital attempts to copy.... flattery as its known.....
But here is reality....most 17 year olds don’t know wt_ they are talking about let alone understand any of us.... head down face in the phone with ear buds on.....yeah ok.....
Digital has come a very long way, seriously. However.....when a piece of vinyl hits it apex in playback.
..digital is still just trying to be that....
Why not just enjoy the choice and accept reality. One has been trying to sound like the other since the very early eighties.....
Its funny ..... the argument that oh I can access a kajillion songs streaming.....but if a guy owns over 9000 lp’s. ..the same wet blankets say you could never listen to them
all.... it would take years...
Just accept it....our human ears are tuned analog....its natural ......
I’m thankful for all playback options....but R2R and vinyl are what came before digital.
Digital that’s spent 40 years trying to imitate what tape and vinyl already can playback....
I get it ...vinyl is more work and gotten even more expensive. ...so I can see why some dont want to or have the funds it can cost even with just the lp’s cost... The rest well...just too lazy to put the cheezies down....😉
All kidding aside, accept the part that R2R / vinyl are the standards all digital looks to be...
Chill out....make it about the music.... whatever the format.

But in my living room it Has2be vinyl or R2R even the tuna gets time in while cooking..... Digital in the car, on the bike, on the trails....
To me it’s "best feature" is its portability......

has2be,

Where have you been for the past 25-30 years ?

Almost all analog since the 90's is first recorded digitally.  Ask recording engineers if you have any doubt.

When you listen to what you think is analog, you are actually listening to a digital recording which has been converted to analog.

@cakyol,

dude I am younger than you,

please...21st century your ass. 

Why is MC calling people perverts when MC himself has no ears or a decent system that he can actually hear a difference in SQ between sources?
IMO, digital has left vinyl behind years ago. With hi res, dsd, MQA, and with the newer better dacs out there, digital has gotten much better.
There is no “reference” tt setup for $2500. A decent cartridge costs more than that. A good tonearm is $3000 minimum, and the tt itself is more. You can get a music hall tt with a grado mm cartridge using a built in phono preamp that will play records which will cost $1000-$1500, but it’s not going to sound that good, been there, done that. I also had a very nice tt setup that cost more tan a Toyota Corolla and still prefer digital.It’s also true that a good sounding dac is going to cost around $7000 and up.

@glupson

People outside of this very small group of "audiophiles" cannot care less for analog sound.

Yep. Yer right. Most listen to mp3's and have no clue about bitrate or codecs, etc. Cheap & convenient is what they want. Digital does fulfill that. Still doesn't change the fact that digital is and always has been chasing analog


@cakyol
 

Only the nostalgic oldies are chasing the old analog sound. People living in the 21st century are not

Indeed, and among those " nostalgic oldies " is a 40 yr old named Digital. FWIW, many of us sold or got rid of our albums for the new improved perfect sound forever. We wanted to believe it was better because it was so convenient & new.  Then in the 90's someone pulled out their albums and listened to it and began to question whether the digital format was really better. Then slowly we began to realize it really wasn't. My 20 yr old Dual rivaled my $2300 CDP. I bought many VG+-NM albums for ten cents apiece. Hardly ever paid more than $1. Fortunately I have 4K albums so I don't need anymore. But if what you say is true, WHY aren't the albums still $1 apiece? No, they start at $20. $8-10 is the lowest prices I've seen for used VG+. That is usually not the popular ones. They sell for $15 in 2021
& have for 4-5 yrs now. 

All that said, I still ordered a Streamer/Dac today. The reason is convenience. At this age I can foresee a day that may come sooner than I like which I will need the convenience of digital. And I still have & play my CDP because some good music never was cut on vinyl. And sometimes, I like the convenience. 
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