Funny how streaming/digital still chases that analog benchmark.


Funny how manufacturers of streaming and digital gear continues to chase that elusive analog sound. I thought digital was better?

Before you all get your panties in a wad I enjoy both Digital and Analog but much rather listen to an analog source than digital.

So today I see  Innuos Introduces The PhoenixNET – A Network Switch For Audiophiles @ only $3500.00

Guess I do not see the point you can get superior sound for say $2500 or less with a decent turntable cartridge combo and phono stage. Hell Clear Audio has an all in one for $2500.

I just don’t get it and I do not care to either.
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Here is a question for the case bled masses here.  Let’s say that in 1970 you bought Tapestry by Carole King and listened to it on your then decent system, say a Dual 1229 turntable, high efficiency speakers, McIntosh tube amplifier and preamp.

How much different would that sound from today listening via streaming using a 10k system?
FWIW I used to record all my albums immediately on R2R back in the day and keep the vinyl as reference in order to re-record if the tape degraded from a pristine record.
"Vinyl advocates should just admit it - they are chasing the memory of sound they grew up with..."

You said it! (and I agree with it)

"The standard has, for decades now, been digital. 17-year-olds do not even know what you are talking about."

.............

That’s hilarious. Kind of proves the point that analog is the standard digital attempts to copy.... flattery as its known.....
Something is wrong with this explanation. It has2be.

"But here is reality....most 17 year olds don’t know wt_ they are talking about let alone understand any of us.... head down face in the phone with ear buds on.....yeah ok....."

Maybe they would understand older people better....if older people made sense.
The opposite is also true. Vinyl analogue is working really hard to achieve what a quality digital stream finds easy. By spending the thick end of £50,000 on hardware and another £50,000 on records, plus a load of fiddling, you might get close to a Qobuz stream’s absence of surface noise, lack of rumble, lack of wow/flutter, stereo in low frequencies, zero pops and crackles, dynamic range, consistency in source quality, diversity of source music, and fidelity to the sound as recorded. 

Keep saving, spending and trying, vinyl lovers - you may overcome those challenges in the end. 
Not sure where I read the story, but apparently Michael Jackson had a two day long strop when he was told he couldn’t have a bass-heavy track positioned last in the running order of Thriller. The design limitations of cutting vinyl simply wouldn’t allow it. It had to be track 1. My how times have changed. The desired running order now wouldn’t be an issue at all.  Maybe Thriller should be reissued without the loudness war changes and in the artist’s desired running order. 

...except that those who want a plastic copy of this will have to listen to a toned-down version designed by the cutting engineer.
If sound quality is all that matters to you in your music enjoyment experience, then we can indeed continue to debate the issue of digital vs analog. My system gives exceedingly good quality sound with either format, to the point that this is no longer the most relevant issue in my music enjoyment.
But a well designed streaming system does something that neither LP’s or CD’s can do alone. Namely it allows me to quickly and easily enjoy the music on many other levels. I can for example:
1) read notes on the album
2) read a biography of the musician(s)
3)find out what other albums they have out, who they were influenced mostly by and who followed them.
4) explore related artists.
5) skip over to allmusic.com or anywhere else on the internet to enrich my experience and understanding of the music
6) tag things I want to revisit or skip or reorder my listening
etc. etc.
This is why streaming will replace both the LP and the CD.