Raven vs primaluna integrated amplifiers

@arafiq, you are still planting strawmen and not addressing my argument. It is okay, I know you know not the first thing about PCB manufacturing, but here you are trying to defend something you know nothing about.  You remind me of fan boys on stock websites. So much fervor for something they know nothing about.  The best way to address this is by repeating something skypunk wrote. All that talk about your CM means little if what deliver is not high quality,

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Well James delivered it (I had to meet him at a mall but that is okay) and I brought it home to set it up in my system. Well Bryant at the factory packed my Blackhawk out with defective tubes and when I fired it up well smoke came out of the thing. I emailed Bryant and James and they said they would check it out, so I packed it up and met up with James at the same mall and he took it back. Never once did they ask what I wanted to do or tried to keep me happy.

So, the next day an Agoner asked me how the Blackhawk was working out and I posted what happened. Well over night my phone is blowing up with text messages from James and they were none too kind. Dave then proceeded to lambaste me and brought up another issue I had with my CeLest Towers. (yes, they have an issue with system controls and QC processes. As a MSME in an industry where if we send the wrong part trains derail and aircraft fall out the sky, I am critical of these short comings especially when they are so simple to fix but are repeated (at least with me). I had even written a review and it is posted on the Raven Audio website and here at Audiogon.com about my experience with the CeLest, but I digress.

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@skypunk -- have you tried any tube rolling with your Blackhawk yet? 

yep sure have and we can PM each other.

@arafiq these snipers like audio2design you know the guy who claims to have all these patents, glupson and two left ears are just here to tear people down.

petty little children with nothing in their meaningless lives.

I have some work to do around here and will reach out to you later. Heck we live close we should get a coffee some time.