@bluemoodriver
"How the devil do you think the microscopic and high frequency vibrations your cabinet experience are dampened in any way by springs and bellows with holes in."
"It is utter gobbledygook, antediluvian nonsense."
"You are imagining - imagining - a vibration of your speaker which is incompatible with reality, and imagining - imagining - these springs and bellows are a solution to a vibration type which doesn’t exist and which they couldn’t do anything about anyway."
"There is a whole industry built up around you, fleecing you, and they are laughing up their sleeve with every new sale they make. It’s really sad."
Thanks for providing a much needed balance to this ongoing debate.
Usually I would very much be on the side that demands to see data and evidence first, but in this case it's not so easy to find any.
I have seen accelerometer readings which indicate that there is far less baffle resonance with footers than with spikes or without.
There is also a growing number of speaker manufacturers now offering the option of using spikes or rubber feet.
The big question is whether we can actually hear the differences as opposed to imagining them.
In my personal (anecdotal) experience using compliant materials underneath my speakers improves their sound (bass tunes become clearer, the mid and top seem to be cleaner/easier to hear).
I would guess that the isolation / compliance underneath the speaker reduces the effective mass that the drivers are working against, and thereby reducing ringing and improving time coherence - as was suggested in the Credo Audio video mentioned earlier.
Perhaps in this case because of the negligible cost of springs / sorbothane etc, this is an experiment we can all try at home first before deciding if it's worth investing in relatively expensive designs such as those podiums offered by Townshend Audio.
Or perhaps your argument is right, and that there is no significant independent evidence available. Hence the lack of much manufacturer interest in this subject.
The acid test would be if the sorbothane/springs/ podiums etc were switched in and out (with speaker height maintained) without the listener being aware. It wouldn't be easy to arrange, nor would the switching be instant, and nor might the results be universal, but it would still be of interest I'm sure.
As far as I know, no one has ever yet conducted such a test.
We already know only too well what happens when cables, DACs, CD players, 192kHz+ bitrates etc are all tested in this manner.
"How the devil do you think the microscopic and high frequency vibrations your cabinet experience are dampened in any way by springs and bellows with holes in."
"It is utter gobbledygook, antediluvian nonsense."
"You are imagining - imagining - a vibration of your speaker which is incompatible with reality, and imagining - imagining - these springs and bellows are a solution to a vibration type which doesn’t exist and which they couldn’t do anything about anyway."
"There is a whole industry built up around you, fleecing you, and they are laughing up their sleeve with every new sale they make. It’s really sad."
Thanks for providing a much needed balance to this ongoing debate.
Usually I would very much be on the side that demands to see data and evidence first, but in this case it's not so easy to find any.
I have seen accelerometer readings which indicate that there is far less baffle resonance with footers than with spikes or without.
There is also a growing number of speaker manufacturers now offering the option of using spikes or rubber feet.
The big question is whether we can actually hear the differences as opposed to imagining them.
In my personal (anecdotal) experience using compliant materials underneath my speakers improves their sound (bass tunes become clearer, the mid and top seem to be cleaner/easier to hear).
I would guess that the isolation / compliance underneath the speaker reduces the effective mass that the drivers are working against, and thereby reducing ringing and improving time coherence - as was suggested in the Credo Audio video mentioned earlier.
Perhaps in this case because of the negligible cost of springs / sorbothane etc, this is an experiment we can all try at home first before deciding if it's worth investing in relatively expensive designs such as those podiums offered by Townshend Audio.
Or perhaps your argument is right, and that there is no significant independent evidence available. Hence the lack of much manufacturer interest in this subject.
The acid test would be if the sorbothane/springs/ podiums etc were switched in and out (with speaker height maintained) without the listener being aware. It wouldn't be easy to arrange, nor would the switching be instant, and nor might the results be universal, but it would still be of interest I'm sure.
As far as I know, no one has ever yet conducted such a test.
We already know only too well what happens when cables, DACs, CD players, 192kHz+ bitrates etc are all tested in this manner.